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This is a discussion on Ninfourteener's Progress Thread + Pics within the Engine Modifications forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by ninefourteener Yup.. just about everything Rota makes is a knockoff. Not to say that is a bad ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Yup.. just about everything Rota makes is a knockoff.

    Not to say that is a bad thing.... I think Rotas are a great choice for a good looking/inexpensive wheel.

    But yes, Torques are Emotion Cr Kai knockoffs

    My Rota Formula Mesh wheels are BBS knockoffs.
    gotcha! beautiful rims though.

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    Dude...those brakes just shine through those spokes. I can't wait to see your new track times, see if your traction improvement and upgraded braking makes that much of a difference...
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    Well, the brakes aren't going to help my "times"... but they will definitely give me some added protection against boiling them.

    The Wheels/tires though..... yea.... uhhh... they'll help.... A LOT.

    I'm pulling them off tonight. I drove them.. I'm happy.... they'll do AWESOME on the track.... but it is just too much for daily driving. I'm white-knuckling the car just to get down the road.

    It's hard to explain.... I really hate driving on these things though on a regular basis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Well, the brakes aren't going to help my "times"... but they will definitely give me some added protection against boiling them.

    The Wheels/tires though..... yea.... uhhh... they'll help.... A LOT.

    I'm pulling them off tonight. I drove them.. I'm happy.... they'll do AWESOME on the track.... but it is just too much for daily driving. I'm white-knuckling the car just to get down the road.

    It's hard to explain.... I really hate driving on these things though on a regular basis.
    Hahaha I completely understand about the keeping control things. Did you say the tires were R-Compounds? Most daily roads are crap, and an everyday tire can handle that but with something sticky that grabs every contour, pothole, crack, etc of a road, that has to be annoying!

    And honestly, I was thinking better brakes means later braking going into a turn means faster going into a turn...ergo shaving off a tiny bit of time (yes I know in milliseconds, but its still an improvement!!!!)
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    Yea, the Yoko Advan A048s are an R compound DOT race tire. The treadwear on them is 60 - LOL

    The treadwear on my NT05s (which are considered an AutoX tire) is 200 - LOL

    Even still though... I'm on the hunt for a decent set of used Hoosier R6s.... heard great things about those tires from several local "serious" racers.

    As for the brakes.... your tires are what stop your car "quicker".... not really the brakes. I can stop this car just as quick on a set of base Impreza 1-piston brakes as I can on the Rotoras/Brembos (provided I'm using the same tires).

    Now..... I'll probably only get 1 or 2 hard brakes at 100+mph before warping/cracking/boiling something though. With my Red 4-pots I could get about 4-6 minutes of balls-out acceleration and heart stopping braking before they boiled and I literally lost them. (with braided lines and high temp fluid)

    I'm hoping for about 10 minutes out of these..... maybe 12.... we'll see. The BBK came with some titanium shims, so hopefully that will resist heat considerably more. I REALLY want to track this thing again... maybe in a couple weeks.

    Heat resistance and repeated high-temp durability... that's really why I bought the BBK. Ok, I kinda like the way they look too
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    Couple questions on the BBK work...

    Did you replace the master cylinder with an STI one?

    Are you worried about pad knockback or wearing out the WRX wheel bearings with the BBK upgrade?

    I'm doing a BBK upgrade in the next couple weeks (used STI Brembo calipers, DBA 4000 rotors (the adapter ones on the rear), Fedoro DS2500 pads, and TiC Titanium hub and pad shims. I already have SS lines and will use ATE fluid again).

    I was reading the Swap FAQ on NASIOC and was concerned about the master cylinder, knockback, and wearing out the front wheel bearings...

    UPDATE: I just did some heavy reading on the 06-07 WRX master brake cylinder (1") with a Brembo or BBK upgrade and I'm convinced it's important to switch to a 02-05 WRX or 04-07 STI MC ( both 1 1/16") if you like a firm pedal. Everyone who had the 1" MC reported squishy, crappy feel, although stopping distance is the same.

    I found a used 04 STI MC for $40 and it seems like an easy install (since I have to bleed the brakes anyway)

    Damn... nothing is straight forward on these cars and this is something no one ever mentions...
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    Haven't noticed a thing at all... nothing.

    I am still using steel braided lines and superblue fluid..... but I was before as well.

    Day to day driving??? I can't tell the difference at all. Feels just like stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Haven't noticed a thing at all... nothing.

    I am still using steel braided lines and superblue fluid..... but I was before as well.

    Day to day driving??? I can't tell the difference at all. Feels just like stock.
    Maybe it's just with the front brembos...idk.

    Seems strange that Subaru would decrease the the MC size and go with larger 4/2 pots at the same time for the 06-07.
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    FINALLY..... I was able to locate a decent set of Hoosier A6s....... after searching nationwide for almost a friggin MONTH.

    Hoosier A6 - DOT Autocross tire
    Treadwear - 40
    245/40/17
    Tread width - 9.3
    Section Width - 10.0

    Hoosier A6

    1 month old... only 1 heat cycle

    Seller paid nearly $1100 a month ago..... I'm getting them for $500

    More than I "should" have paid for a used set, even if they are practically new.... but it's off-season, and this is a TERRIBLY difficult size to find. So, in order to be ready for the next lap battle.... I figured I'd just better suck it up.... so I did.

    Pics later tonight after I pick them up.
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    Sweet Yummi sticky goodness

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    OMG!!! The airhammer chisel freaking rocks!!!

    I had each rear brake dustshield off in about 5 minutes.

    I highly recommend it to anyone else who wants to put a BBK on a 06-07 WRX.

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    Sweet!!! Glad it worked!!

    I used the drill bit / Hammer & flathead screwdriver method - LOL

    Got a pic thread?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Sweet!!! Glad it worked!!

    I used the drill bit / Hammer & flathead screwdriver method - LOL

    Got a pic thread?
    Tires look sick! Sticky fun coming up! (That's what she said!)

    +1...would love to see the brakes...not many people do a BBK on Subarus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Sweet!!! Glad it worked!!

    I used the drill bit / Hammer & flathead screwdriver method - LOL

    Got a pic thread?
    I just finished up... The hard things went easy and the easy things went hard...

    The calipers, rotors, and pads were a breeze. But, it took me almost 4 hours to bleed my brakes! And I have speed bleeders! I couldn't get one of them to seal and it took me forever to fix the leak, then verify (over and over again) that none of the others were leaking.

    I gave up on the STI Master Cylinder and kept the stock WRX MC and, your right, I felt no ill effects. Pedal felt just fine.

    Air-chiseled the back dustshields off, but I left the front shields on. They didn't impact the clearance with the front rotors at all.

    I even installed those Dynamic Dampers on the back. I have no idea why they are on the STI's, but they fit, so I installed them.

    I think I have a thread in the suspension forum, but I'll post some teasers:

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    Rear Dustshields are where they belong
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    It felt pretty good during the bed-in drive. And the car stops and the parking brake even works
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    Nice job
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