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This is a discussion on Ninfourteener's Progress Thread + Pics within the Engine Modifications forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by jpjester Heres the thing: Every car is different, doesn't matter if you have two identical year and ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jpjester View Post
    Heres the thing:
    Every car is different, doesn't matter if you have two identical year and model cars next to eachother. Every car reacts differently to a Custom ProTune....

    I dare you to go get a protune and come back unhappy.
    Tuner told me the same thing about the AP maps, to get the most out it, you nee to have a tune to adjust it to the unique spec of your car.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    Incorrect. I'm at 6000 feet. Our best numbers were at 16.8lbs of boost on the aggressive tune. Because of our extreme temperature and barometric changes, it's a great idea to have a street tune. I'm assuming you don't live in a city that varies 4k feet in a half hour drive, varies from -30 to 115 degrees in seasonal changes, and can change barometric pressure 5psi in a moments notice.
    I will have to pay attention to this...when i drive from phx to flagstaff, the temp will change 30 degrees or so and the elevation goes from 1200 to 6800+
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    Quote Originally Posted by jpjester View Post
    Heres the thing:
    Every car is different, doesn't matter if you have two identical year and model cars next to eachother. Every car reacts differently to a Custom ProTune.

    Cobbs OTS Stage Maps are generic maps, ment to be capatible across the board. Therefore your car currently is not optimizing the aftermarket parts on that car to 100% either way you look at it, because of the generic tune.

    Now go and get a Protune, and every bit of those aftermarket parts is being optimized to 100% of their ability. You also have several minor modifications here and there that aren't covered in the Cobb OTS Stage maps. A protune will help all of your aftermarket parts work together to get the most HP and Torque out of your car.

    I dare you to go get a protune and come back unhappy.
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    Using E85 would be great, but i bet it would cost a decent amount just to get your car adjusted to the ethanol fuel.
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    Jeez..... you guys are relentless---LOL

    Ok..... I started working on the Brat again last night, so I want to at least finish the dashboard before I go to St. Louis in a couple weeks.

    When i get back... I'll call Cobb and see if I can set something up...... you guys talk a lot of smack.... but I don't see any dyno sheets--LOL

    (Just kiddin)

    I'll post up some when I have it done
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Jeez..... you guys are relentless---LOL

    Ok..... I started working on the Brat again last night, so I want to at least finish the dashboard before I go to St. Louis in a couple weeks.

    When i get back... I'll call Cobb and see if I can set something up...... you guys talk a lot of smack.... but I don't see any dyno sheets--LOL

    (Just kiddin)

    I'll post up some when I have it done
    HA! You called me out, I will produce sir! I will do better then just the Dyno Sheet, How about the Full 5 Minute Video of all my tunes and what a world of difference occurs.

    ProTune at 311WHP @ 290Max Torque
    As a result of the amount of power the Car was making, I blew my clutch on the Dyno. I had the Exedy Stage 1 Clutch installed AFTER the Video. I was told the car could of made much more power, with the new Clutch Installed by the Tuner. Never had it retuned since then.

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    Total Amount spent on Professional Modifications: $7639.00 over 1 Year of Owning the Vehicle

    I then sold the car about 2 months after getting all that work done and having it tuned, to pay off my college loans to make me completly debt free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by STiled View Post
    Is that 252 at the wheels? Yeah we have crap gas here in phx (az in general i think). East cost / midwest area gets 93 octane no? wish we had that.
    252.8whp and 265wtq (just looked at the sheet )
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    Quote Originally Posted by STiled View Post
    Using E85 would be great, but i bet it would cost a decent amount just to get your car adjusted to the ethanol fuel.
    The biggest cost is the injectors. Otherwise it's the same cost as a tune. My tuner said that he would max my tune out at 3hrs cost even if it went more, and that's for 2 tunes. 91 on new inj and e85.
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    wow thats better than i thought. Gota friend who pushes 350hp out of his 87 GLI (amount actually appiled to the ground is limited by the front wheel drive unfortunately) but he has a piggy back fuel system that pumps ethanol into the 1.8 I4. Has around 25lbs of boost, yeah crazy! And that motor was never designed for a turbo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Jeez..... you guys are relentless---LOL

    Ok..... I started working on the Brat again last night, so I want to at least finish the dashboard before I go to St. Louis in a couple weeks.

    When i get back... I'll call Cobb and see if I can set something up...... you guys talk a lot of smack.... but I don't see any dyno sheets--LOL

    (Just kiddin)

    I'll post up some when I have it done
    No comments to my big response lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinister View Post
    252.8whp and 265wtq (just looked at the sheet )
    STILED: That was on pump gas at 6000ft, 16.8psi, 75 degree day, on a DynoDynamics dyno.
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    Although I'm disappointed with the part, I must admit, the whiteline company has been extremely helpful, and with very little effort, is sending me another set of endlinks.

    Here is the email correspondence:

    Me: Hello,
    >>
    >> I'm writing with the hopes that you will somehow provide some kind of
    >> clarification regarding your product. I purchased a brand new set of
    >> Whiteline front and rear endlinks for my 2006 Subaru WRX
    >> approximately
    >> 3 weeks ago.
    >>
    >> In preparation for an upcoming track meet, I combined them with a
    >> brand new set of Cobb 25mm swaybars.
    >>
    >> Within the first 10 minutes on the track, the bushing was ripped
    >> completely out of the left front endlink, and left me essentially
    >> with no suspension for the rest of the day.
    >>
    >> I will be happy to provide you with receipts, pictures of the
    >> installation, and pictures of the current state if you like. However, I think as a company of your caliber
    >> and reputation, you should send me another set.
    >>
    >> Eagerly anticipating your response

    Whiteline: >> Can we please see some pics if possible so we can assist?
    >> And also who
    >> you purchased from and your full address.

    Me: I've attached 2 pictures of the current left
    > front endlink as of Saturday, May 2nd. (also on the 3rd page of the
    > same thread listed above) My address is:
    > SSgt Matthew T. XXXXXXX
    XXXXXXXXXXX
    > Once again, thank you for your prompt attention in this matter.
    > Regards,
    > Matt XXXXXX

    Whiteline: > Hi Matt,
    > Did you purchase KLC30 or KLC32?
    > Regards
    > John Leighton
    > Redranger
    > NOLATHANE / WHITELINE

    Me: Hello Mr. Leighton, They were the KLC32, for the wrx sedan or sti, not for
    the wagon or gc

    Whiteline: Hi Judy,

    Do you have KLC32 in stock to help Matt FOC?

    Whiteline rep: Matt,

    I will ship a new KLC32 to you today and e-mail the tracking information to
    you as soon as it is available. Please let me know if you have any
    questions.

    Thank-you,
    Judy Boone
    Global Performance Parts

    Me: Thank you Judy!

    ... And thank you Mr. Leighton - I think your willingness to replace this part easily and quickly is a direct reflection of the high caliber of the whiteline company - Thank you.

    Respectfully,

    Matt XXXXXX
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    Well, I followed the instructions exactly on the whiteline endlinks.... but maybe the directions just suck.

    I thought they were fine.... but I decided to take Brody's advice.

    I used a series of washers on the kartboys.... I also installed them while the car was on a set of ramps (instead of the suspension hanging)

    I used as many washers as I felt appropriate to get the endlinks straight up and down, while the suspension was compressed (driving setting)

    My camera died after the first picture.... but they both look llike this:



    Just as a basis of comparison.... here was the whiteline endlink installed (according to their directions) the first time around:

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    Well, I followed the instructions exactly on the whiteline endlinks.... but maybe the directions just suck.

    I thought they were fine.... but I decided to take Brody's advice.

    I used a series of washers on the kartboys.... I also installed them while the car was on a set of ramps (instead of the suspension hanging)

    I used as many washers as I felt appropriate to get the endlinks straight up and down, while the suspension was compressed (driving setting)

    My camera died after the first picture.... but they both look llike this:



    Just as a basis of comparison.... here was the whiteline endlink installed (according to their directions) the first time around:


    Well going by their directions, they are angled, i can see how after the first 10 minutes you got hosed! Jeez.....!

    They look much better now! Nice Work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ninefourteener View Post
    I thought they were fine.... but I decided to take Brody's advice.

    I used a series of washers on the kartboys.... I also installed them while the car was on a set of ramps (instead of the suspension hanging)

    I used as many washers as I felt appropriate to get the endlinks straight up and down, while the suspension was compressed (driving setting)
    That was a smart thing to do IMO. Good call! Perhaps if I had done that, then my bolt wouldn't have popped out, haha.


    Well you ask, and you shall receive (with Dyno sheet)

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