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This is a discussion on Upgrading Turbo - What do? within the Engine Modifications forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by MisterNBG Damn Dude... I'm not even going to have a DeatschWerks product open in my browswer let ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNBG View Post
    Damn Dude... I'm not even going to have a DeatschWerks product open in my browswer let alone near my car with that rep. I'll shell out the extra bucks for ID1000s then.

    I guess my main concern is... Why 1000ccs? I have a 2004 WRX, in my opinion, the turbo I was looking at is a little overkill (for me at least) I'm only hoping to get around 300whp. Do I really need those injectors? I don't plan on E85 or anything past my whp goal. If I want more, I'll do an STi swap or motor rebuild for ease of mind. But for now, it just seems that those injectors aren't necessary for my goals. Then again I'm not 100% sure of all the ups and downs to smaller injectors.

    I don't want the injectors to be my power 'bottleneck' but I also don't want to pay for bigger injectors I'll never need, ya dig?

    I would think of it more as you're paying for the quality of the injector, not the flow rate.. but like I said, you could just as well install ID725s. Only difference would be that you wouldn't have as much head room for upgrades in the future. At that point, my question would be why not 1000s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    my question would be why not 1000s?
    Only because I don't want to pay more for something I'm not going to use. I understand the 1000s have more head room, but if I never plan on pushing this ej205 anymore than 300whp. Why spend the extra money on something I won't use.

    EDIT:Now that I'm shopping around for prices. I see that the 725s and 1000s are close to the same price. I suppose I should just go with the 1000s.

    Any good sites to buy them from? I'm seeing $450 being the lowest + the x4 PnP adapters which is like another $60.

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    Damn I'm so indecisive... Now I'm looking at the blouch 16g-xt

    Blouch TD05H-16GXT 7cm^2 Turbo Billet Wheel Subaru Models (inc. 2002-2007 WRX / 2004-2015 STI) TD05H-16GXT at RallySportDirect.com

    I really don't plan on going over 300whp with my EJ205 and it seems like a waste of an 18g-xt and money. So I'm going to stick with the 16 for now.

    At least until I read something that makes me change my mind again. lol

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    Yeah, you're not really saving any money by going smaller on the injectors. Pretty much all of that stuff can be found for about 10% cheaper than it's listed on RSD. I would suggest contacting one of the smaller site vendors here and see what they can do for you on a package deal.

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    Thanks Zax and MainFrame, for the injector info.
    I'm about to do injectors and a fuel pump.
    This is good for anyone looking to purchase and upgrade their injectors.
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    The design of the ID1000 is based on the Bosch EV14 series injectors (hence the different connectors). In my opinion, the EV14 design offers superior fuel atomization compared to the OEM (Denso?) injectors (pencil vs. shower spray pattern). This helps to facilitate linear burn and reduce tau accumulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TownLine500 View Post
    Thanks for sharing your experience.
    What he said, thanks!

    One last thing. My car will NEED a clutch before I do anything. So next week I'm going to get it replaced. Now I'm obviously planning on the neighborhood of around 300whp so should I just go with a stock OEM replacement? I'd rather the clutch slip a little rather than the 2004 WRX 5-speed (glass box) breaking. I won't be launching or shifting hard. Just occasional pulls you know? So will OEM hold or should I upgrade to stage 2? Also what about flywheels? Lightweight? Resurface existing flywheel?

    Thanks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNBG View Post
    What he said, thanks!

    One last thing. My car will NEED a clutch before I do anything. So next week I'm going to get it replaced. Now I'm obviously planning on the neighborhood of around 300whp so should I just go with a stock OEM replacement? I'd rather the clutch slip a little rather than the 2004 WRX 5-speed (glass box) breaking. I won't be launching or shifting hard. Just occasional pulls you know? So will OEM hold or should I upgrade to stage 2? Also what about flywheels? Lightweight? Resurface existing flywheel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    OEM clutch. OEM flywheel.
    New flywheel or resurface?

    & Thanks Zax

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