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    Whose got a stage 1 protune

    I'm looking to get an apv3 and going to efi and getting a stage 1 protune. Not planning on going stage 2 with my car. I've seen some real nice gains with a protune stage 1. Looks like it adds around 30-40 whp/tq over a stock baseline. Anyone on here have any baseline and stage 1 dyno sheets?
    Efi said baseline on there dyno is around 220whp and I would expect to be around 260whp

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    I would not pay full rip for a S1 tune on a dyno. A street tune is perfectly sufficient. I had my street tune done by a top NW tuner for $100 back in the day.
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    So you want to spend $600 on an AP...and then have a Protune done at another $400 plus at EFI for just Stage 1?

    Seems legit.
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    I'm pretty sure efi only tunes using the ap. and I have been seeing 20+ hp gains over the ots maps.

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    If I go I'm going to ask them to do a stock baseline, ots baseline and final tune to see the performance.

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    You can do stage II with a cat & opensource etune for that money. Instead of some pretty plots you will have a proper sports car in the making.
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    I'm not going to do stage 2 cuz I will most likely sell the car next year.

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    ..why no Stage 2?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13WrXx View Post
    I'm not going to do stage 2 cuz I will most likely sell the car next year.
    Then why spend $1000 for minimal gains and then sell it?
    Find a low-mileage one-owner unmodified '04/'05 and you're golden.

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    Eh the more parts you add the less reliable. And ill be satisfied with just a tune to get rid of this stock one.
    And when I go to sell the car in a year or so people will like the fact it was never modded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeremydingeman View Post
    Then why spend $1000 for minimal gains and then sell it?
    Because the stock tune is ass and doesn't give me any enjoyment when going wot. And I could sell the cobb next year for around $500 anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 13WrXx
    Eh the more parts you add the less reliable. And ill be satisfied with just a tune to get rid of this stock one.
    And when I go to sell the car in a year or so people will like the fact it was never modded.
    You're planning on tuning the vehicle...that's modifying it
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    Do what you feel like doing. In the end, it is your car not ours. All we can do in weigh in our thoughts but IMO a stage 1 pro tune is not worth the extra money, especially if you are going to up and sell soon... You are much better off using Cobb's OTS Stage 1 map or if you really wanted a pro tune go open source and get an E-tune. It's not worth the money for the minimal gains you will receive, unless you plan to do more modding in the future, but even that still doesn't justify a dyno tune on an AP at stage 1....
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    Well idk ill keep researching it . Maybe ill just get better coils instead of doing any engine mods .

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    Also, let me add that I don't think it's right for people to call the stock tune "junk". If it was "junk" why would Subaru spend hundreds of thousands of dollars on R&D and hire engine management professionals to make a stock map that was worthless... The stock tune is there for a reason, if not then why not have a less conservative map loaded on the ECU from the get go? It's most likely for reliability, engine longevity and for emissions regulations.
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