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This is a discussion on Nameless claims catback gains 25hp/12 ft lb; is this possible? within the Engine Modifications forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Oh sorry, Axleback. Soon to be catback though. And then Turbo back haha and then.......

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    Oh sorry, Axleback. Soon to be catback though. And then Turbo back haha and then....

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    My best friend runs a Lou's Custom Exhaust just outside Boston where we live.
    He told me that the cat back wouldn't gain much like 5 horse.
    The most common thing I hear about is the down pipe.
    My question is if I add cobb down pipe keep the rest stock can I run stage 2 maps? People say you can but it needs tuning, can't I tune myself with v3 tuner. Or should I seek a pro shop? I'm unfamiliar with nameless but I hear there crazy loud.
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    My best friend runs a Lou's Custom Exhaust just outside Boston where we live.
    He told me that the cat back wouldn't gain much like 5 horse.
    The most common thing I hear about is the down pipe.
    My question is if I add cobb down pipe keep the rest stock can I run stage 2 maps? People say you can but it needs tuning, can't I tune myself with v3 tuner. Or should I seek a pro shop? I'm unfamiliar with nameless but I hear there crazy loud.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownLine500 View Post
    My best friend runs a Lou's Custom Exhaust just outside Boston where we live.
    He told me that the cat back wouldn't gain much like 5 horse.
    The most common thing I hear about is the down pipe.
    My question is if I add cobb down pipe keep the rest stock can I run stage 2 maps? People say you can but it needs tuning, can't I tune myself with v3 tuner. Or should I seek a pro shop? I'm unfamiliar with nameless but I hear there crazy loud.
    If you are going to follow the cobb map notes to a T then you need a turbo back exhaust. The map would probably still run ok, but that is a big PROBABLY. You would need to datalog to make sure your car is performing as the map intended, and you are hitting all target data. To be safest you would want to custom (or pro)-tune. You can design custom tune and load them via the accessport, but you need additional software for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownLine500 View Post
    My best friend runs a Lou's Custom Exhaust just outside Boston where we live.
    He told me that the cat back wouldn't gain much like 5 horse.
    The most common thing I hear about is the down pipe.
    My question is if I add cobb down pipe keep the rest stock can I run stage 2 maps? People say you can but it needs tuning, can't I tune myself with v3 tuner. Or should I seek a pro shop? I'm unfamiliar with nameless but I hear there crazy loud.
    I think you are very confused, and that's OK. Let's clean up the mess a bit shall we?

    A map IS a tune in the broadest sense. "Tune" colloquially refers to adjustment of the combustion factors in an engine to achieve the most ideal combustion with the least amount of risk. Before ECM fueling, tuning was performed mechanically: Carb venturi and jet adjustment; Cam timing and distributor adjustment; throttle plate and IAC adjustment etc.

    With the dawn of computer-controlled fueling, these combustion parameters are stored in a file called a "map." When the map is flashed to the ECU, the ECU follows the parameters of the new map thus altering the "tune" on the vehicle. The act of "tuning" a vehicle means to create a new map of the combustion parameters.

    Make more sense?
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    Where would I get the map software? I have a 2013 WRX premium. Right now just running stage 1 cobb tuner.
    I'm trying to get to stage 2 but I don't want car to become tinker toy. It's a daily driver and I don't want check engine problems.
    Looking for mod advice to upgrade power. You guys are the experts. Any advice or plan would be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TownLine500 View Post
    Where would I get the map software? I have a 2013 WRX premium. Right now just running stage 1 cobb tuner.
    I'm trying to get to stage 2 but I don't want car to become tinker toy. It's a daily driver and I don't want check engine problems.
    Looking for mod advice to upgrade power. You guys are the experts. Any advice or plan would be appreciated.
    The Stage 2 map should be preloaded on the AP. If not, search "AccessPort Manager" software (may have been renamed IDK) which can be used to load new maps onto the AP. If you are interested in tweaking the map yourself, Cobb offers AccessTuner Race (ATR) software for free by request. Contact Cobb for details. This information is applicable to V2 APs: I don't have experience with V3 APs.
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    I have installed a nameless muffler delete axleback with straight pipes from the turbo back. Nameless without the muffler option is extremely loud and obnoxious in the car. I had it tuned with my cobb SRI and I was at 286 whp and 310 wtq @ 16.5 lbs. They could have probably tuned it to better but since I was running a little hot, they decided better safe than sorry. I also did not install the grimmspeed ebcs ( which I would if I were you)

    My upgrades:
    Cobb SRI
    3" catless downpipe
    3" Mid-pipes
    3" nameless muffler delete

    Hopefully that helps. Good luck

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hardwrx View Post
    I have installed a nameless muffler delete axleback with straight pipes from the turbo back. Nameless without the muffler option is extremely loud and obnoxious in the car. I had it tuned with my cobb SRI and I was at 286 whp and 310 wtq @ 16.5 lbs. They could have probably tuned it to better but since I was running a little hot, they decided better safe than sorry. I also did not install the grimmspeed ebcs ( which I would if I were you)

    My upgrades:
    Cobb SRI
    3" catless downpipe
    3" Mid-pipes
    3" nameless muffler delete

    Hopefully that helps. Good luck
    Thanks for weighing in, but the argument is that Nameless produces a solid 12hp increase on a stock car with the stock tune.

    Honestly, like I mentioned, there's an obvious lack of clarification. I'm sure we are not talking about peak numbers here.
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    Zax, I know tuner is pre loaded with stage2. My question is if I get the DP and do a turbo back, the stage 2 pre loaded maps should work correctly? Do you think I need a custom map? Or will pre load be sufficient.
    I am new to modding, and want to gain more power but keep engine running correctly.

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    Your input and anyone elevate is welcome.
    Thanks

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    Zax which model and which mods do you have?
    11blacksti what are you running? I assume you have an11 black sti.
    Don't mean to sound stupid, just curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    Thanks for weighing in, but the argument is that Nameless produces a solid 12hp increase on a stock car with the stock tune.
    Nameless still hasn't email me back since I asked how they achieve those gains.....hmm.....TurboXS is starting to look good. If Nameless doesn't get back me today, I'm ordering the TXS CBE. And with the money left over compared to the Nameless I can get my Hella horns and a give Chris over at WC Lathe Werks a call
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    When I was researching CBE, I saw a graph on Perrin's website where they took a Stage 1 car, dyno'd it, put their CBE on, re-dyno'd it and saw some power gains. I do see slightly better MPG now, no idea about the HP....so is this just marketing? No idea.

    "This test was done on an 08 STI that was running our AccessPORT Stage 1 mapping. We swapped out the exhaust in roughly 5minutes and re-dynoed the car to find 10WHP and 10ft-lbs of TQ from the catback. So not only does this add some really cool sounds but also a bit of HP, all while increasing your fuel economy."

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