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This is a discussion on NEED HELP ... ARE THIS MODS GOOD ??? within the Engine Modifications forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Originally Posted by EJ257 Disagree, wholeheartedly, respectfully. A good set of headers will allow for quite a bit more power ...

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    Re: NEED HELP ... ARE THIS MODS GOOD ???

    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    Disagree, wholeheartedly, respectfully.

    A good set of headers will allow for quite a bit more power while maintaining a comparable safety level vs the stock manifold. You should be able to run 2+ more timing with a "good ELH" (KBM fits into that description.
    Reapectfully I disagree. You know I am a huge fan of ELH, but the OP needs to consider basic braking/cornering mods long before considering ELH.

    I'm actually not really disagreeing with you, I just think the OP needs to focus on other components first.

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    Re: NEED HELP ... ARE THIS MODS GOOD ???

    Like mikie had said rce springs and tockico struts are a good options. Turn in concepts sells these together in their legendary legend of totally awesome kits http://turninconcepts.com/product_in...oducts_id=1098

    That will be my next suspension mod. I have front and rear sway bars and endlinks now.


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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    I'm not a fan of E85 for a DD. Anytime you're not in need of the extra octane, you're pissing money away. This is why I'm such a proponent of methanol injection. Pump gas when you need it, race gas when you need it.
    IIRC E85 is almost always 10-15% cheaper than gasoline. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdbrendan View Post
    IIRC E85 is almost always 10-15% cheaper than gasoline. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?
    It also has 30% less energy density, so you're spending more money per joule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    It also has 30% less energy density, so you're spending more money per joule.
    Noob question here, sorry in advance: with a lower energy density, why are e85 tunes consistently making more power? And how would that effect the wallet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    It also has 30% less energy density, so you're spending more money per joule.
    Ahhhh because that is always stated on the pump, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdbrendan View Post
    Noob question here, sorry in advance: with a lower energy density, why are e85 tunes consistently making more power? And how would that effect the wallet?
    E85 actually has a much higher octane rating than regular petrol. Tuners can use this to their advantage to increase power. /short-oversimplified answer

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdbrendan
    Noob question here, sorry in advance: with a lower energy density, why are e85 tunes consistently making more power? And how would that effect the wallet?
    Octane and cooling. You can run a more aggressive tune.

    The problem is that you use 30% more E85 than you would with pump gas.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax
    Reapectfully I disagree. You know I am a huge fan of ELH, but the OP needs to consider basic braking/cornering mods long before considering ELH.

    I'm actually not really disagreeing with you, I just think the OP needs to focus on other components first.
    He's getting a custom tune, why not install the headers on there in prep?

    While I agree with you on needing to address other stuff, it's going to be a bolt-on stock turbo car. It's not as imperative as someone doing a turbo swap. If it needs to wait a bit, NBD. That said, the other components are addressed by the clutch/flywheel budget he just saved himself
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    Octane and cooling. You can run a more aggressive tune.

    The problem is that you use 30% more E85 than you would with pump gas.
    I knew the octane is much higher, didn't realize the tune could be that much more aggressive though due to the lower chance of detonation. Thanks for the info. Sounds like it won't effect my pocket book directly, but the supporting mods certainly will.

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    this mods are good. my stock clutch has 94k not slipping yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcdbrendan
    IIRC E85 is almost always 10-15% cheaper than gasoline. Can someone correct me if I'm wrong?
    Quote Originally Posted by mcdbrendan
    Sounds like it won't effect my pocket book directly, but the supporting mods certainly will.
    E85 isn't that prevalent in my area, so we'll go on your use of 10-15% cheaper than gas. Let's use some simple numbers to put things in perspective...

    Gas: $4/gal
    E: $3.50/gal (12.5% cheaper)

    Gas: 300 miles/tank
    E: 200 miles/tank

    Typical 1,000 miles/month
    Typical 15 gal/fillup

    50 gallons of Gas = $200
    75 gallons of E = ~$260
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    I'm not a fan of E85 for a DD. Anytime you're not in need of the extra octane, you're pissing money away. This is why I'm such a proponent of methanol injection. Pump gas when you need it, race gas when you need it.


    That depends entirely on fuel prices in your area. It's actually cheaper per mile for me to run e85 (just barely). Plus you have to consider that most cruising and daily driving isn't actually going to use +30% for e85.. highway driving is more like +10% fuel consumption compared to 93. If e85 wasn't $2.42/gallon it would be a different story..

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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    50 gallons of Gas = $200
    75 gallons of E = ~$260
    Well that explains it: this whole time I've incorrectly assumed E would have the same mileage...

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