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    Up pipe, 3 point boost control?

    Hey everybody, installing my up pipe today. I bought I 3 point boost control with it, Any opinions on it? Likes or dislikes?

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    What type of Subaru do you have? Assuming 04-05 based on your avatar. What type of engine management do you plan on using with the boost controller

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtreme06 View Post
    What type of Subaru do you have? Assuming 04-05 based on your avatar. What type of engine management do you plan on using with the boost controller
    This.

    Otherwise, replacing the UP is a solid idea. Any other mods? No need really for a 3port BCS unless you are planning on further modding (stage 2 and such).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikie13 View Post
    No need really for a 3port BCS unless you are planning on further modding (stage 2 and such).
    I disagree. An interrupt-type EBCS will benefit anyone in any stage of modification if you have the patience to tune for it. Granted the spool on the TD04-13T is exceptionally fast, and the spool improvement will not be as drastic as on a larger turbo, but there will be gains.

    OP, as mentioned, the 3-port (interrupt-type) EBCS will require tuning your WGDC and Turbo Dynamics. You will REQUIRE engine management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    I disagree. An interrupt-type EBCS will benefit anyone in any stage of modification if you have the patience to tune for it. Granted the spool on the TD04-13T is exceptionally fast, and the spool improvement will not be as drastic as on a larger turbo, but there will be gains.

    OP, as mentioned, the 3-port (interrupt-type) EBCS will require tuning your WGDC and Turbo Dynamics. You will REQUIRE engine management.
    So case in point...what is the point of doing all that unless you plan on modding further? You just like to disagree with everything I say, jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikie13 View Post
    So case in point...what is the point of doing all that unless you plan on modding further? You just like to disagree with everything I say, jackass.
    No, I'm saying if you have it and you install it, there will be improvements in spool and boost control. Even if there are no further mod plans, it's a good upgrade.




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    Re: Up pipe, 3 point boost control?

    Quote Originally Posted by wrxtreme06 View Post
    What type of Subaru do you have? Assuming 04-05 based on your avatar. What type of engine management do you plan on using with the boost controller
    It's an 04 wrx. I was looking into the 3 point controllers because I thought it would be nice to get full psi around 4000 to 4500 rpms and hold till red line. And when I go stage two, it'll come in hand. My tuner sold me on one....

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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    No, I'm saying if you have it and you install it, there will be improvements in spool and boost control. Even if there are no further mod plans, it's a good upgrade.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikie13 View Post
    So would it benefit a VF39 as well?
    Definitely. Buy a 3-port and I'll help tune.
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    Quote Originally Posted by skinikko View Post
    It's an 04 wrx. I was looking into the 3 point controllers because I thought it would be nice to get full psi around 4000 to 4500 rpms and hold till red line. And when I go stage two, it'll come in hand. My tuner sold me on one....

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    I get 20psi by about 2800-3000 rpm in 3rd gear. You will never hold peak boost to redline on the stock turbo




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    Huh for some reason I missed that post... but yeah the stock TD04-13T frankly does not move enough air to hold 18 PSI at redline
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    Unless you have the ability to modify the tune yourself, I wouldn't bother with an EBCS on a car that doesn't have a downpipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey View Post
    You should never hold peak boost to redline on the stock turbo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donkey View Post
    You should never hold peak boost to redline on any turbo
    Further fixored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rambo View Post
    Further fixored.
    I disagree actually. It depends on what you are aiming for. If I was making a time attack car... I'd size my turbo to hit peak boost within a few thousand rpm of redline... and hold it until redline. Pending reliability concerns and the such. It all depends on the situation.

    Look at most GT35r builds for example. If you can supply the CFMs at redline efficiently... may as well if the engine can take it.
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