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    EL Header comparison

    Im looking for the best bang for my buck on an equal length header. I cant find anything in any of the forums that compares most of the brands together, just bragging that they love theirs. Sound is not a concern for me, Im really just looking for the best EL header without spending a fortune and I want it to last. The Killer B header looks unbelievable but again, 1400 - 1700 is way more than I want to spend. I have an 02 that is currently getting a stroker build, anyone have any comps between EL headers?

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    There used to be a header comparison, but most of them were UEL, and most of the info is gone now. It takes a lot of money/time/work to do back to back comparisons like that, so most people don't bother.


    I can tell you the Perrin ELH I have is well designed, and the build quality is top notch. For the price I doubt you could find a better performing header that will last.



    Of course without knowing the details of the rest of your build it's impossible to give an informed recommendation. For instance, ETS also makes a high quality piece, but their ELH had 2" primaries.. which is HUGE. If you're running a massive turbo like a HTA3794 then it would be great for top end, but if you're running a small turbo like an 18g then it's just going to kill your spool. The interior diameter of the Perrin header is small enough to run with a VF turbo, and just large enough not to choke a 35r.

    There also some good TS header/uppipes out there.. but if the Killer B header is out of your price range then I would assume TS isn't an option.

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    Re: EL Header comparison

    What turbo you planning to run? Choose headers for the turbo for best results.

    Without that information, on the cheaper end of the spectrum, I would say either the Perrin or Invidia headers are your best bet.

    Before you install, take the time to tap the #4 runner for EGT and wrap them (I like the DEI Lava Rock stuff).
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    Quote Originally Posted by EJ257 View Post
    ..take the time to tap the #4 runner for EGT and wrap them (I like the DEI Lava Rock stuff).


    Precisely what I did with mine.

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    is wrapping necessary for these? i know some people wrap headers and downpipes, dont know if its helpful or just what people prefer
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    Im putting on a smaller Blouch TD05 16GXT with an 8cm housing to match the 3" hard inlet. Im sure any of the smaller I.D. tubing headers would work. I keep hearing that if I go with the larger diameter headers that it will hurt the low end power anyway. So far it looks like its between the Invidia, Perrin, Tomei, or Maddad headers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by puckthefackers
    Im putting on a smaller Blouch TD05 16GXT with an 8cm housing to match the 3" hard inlet. Im sure any of the smaller I.D. tubing headers would work. I keep hearing that if I go with the larger diameter headers that it will hurt the low end power anyway. So far it looks like its between the Invidia, Perrin, Tomei, or Maddad headers.
    The larger primary headers are for when the turbo exceeds the flow of the headers you have, which will not be the case with your 16G, so you want to avoid those. I'm not a fan of the Tomei/Maddad/GTSpec/Prosport/whatever other company has the same headers, which is why I didn't bring them up last post. I would stick with the Invidia or Perrin headers, and go with an uppipe from Grimmspeed or TurboXS (EWG, if you can afford it).

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    is wrapping necessary for these? i know some people wrap headers and downpipes, dont know if its helpful or just what people prefer
    No. However, it helps both with keeping the heat from leaving the exhaust, and helps keep the exhaust from cooling down due to natural wind as you drive (which coatings do not).
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    Not to sound too dumb but why do you want the exhaust to stay hot while driving? i understand keeping the heat in so it wont heat soak the intercooler but not keeping them from cooling down a little while driving
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    Quote Originally Posted by 11blackwrx
    Not to sound too dumb but why do you want the exhaust to stay hot while driving? i understand keeping the heat in so it wont heat soak the intercooler but not keeping them from cooling down a little while driving
    Hotter EGTs flow better than cooler EGTs. You will have better response and it should help slightly in the spool department.
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    awesome thanks a lot for the info
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