FMIC, when are they needed?

[SubiEj255]

Just as the title reads. When are they needed? I've been reading they are only needed when you have a bigger turbo.

[Anub1s]

In my opinion, never.

[zax]

In my opinion, never.

I wouldn't say that.... but IMO I'd go E85/Meth Injection + Billet Wheel Turbo with TMIC before I ever went FMIC.

[SubiEj255]

I understand the produced lag, but aren't the IATs cooler with a fm?

[zax]

I understand the produced lag, but aren't the IATs cooler with a fm?

No, not IAT. But your intake charge temps could be cooler.

But everything I've listed will also cool your intake charge. A good bar-and-plate intercooler will do a much better job at cooling your intake charge over the OEM tube-and-fin intercooler.

[SubiEj255]

Ohhhh ok you right.

I'm just seeing what mods to knock off my check list

[MainFrame]

People have run turbos as large as a 35r on TMIC with great success. I would say intended use is probably the biggest factor to consider. The main drawback of a TMIC is heatsoak.. so if you're building a dedicated drag car then FMIC may be a better option. For a daily driver a good TMIC is hard to beat.

[scarmack]

I have a front mount because I like the way it cleans up the front of the car by filling the bumper gap and I think it cleans up the engine bay also.

[Rambo]

I have a front mount because I like the way it cleans up the front of the car by filling the bumper gap and I think it cleans up the engine bay also.

Aesthetics alone isn't a very good reason to install one, but to each his own. Who did your tune?

[scarmack]

Aesthetics alone isn't a very good reason to install one, but to each his own. Who did your tune?

Well, if anything it helps cool down, and its red I'm still looking for a pro tune, but right now I just have a torqued performance stage "3".

[SubiEj255]

I have a front mount because I like the way it cleans up the front of the car by filling the bumper gap and I think it cleans up the engine bay also.

This is true. That's why im asking about it.

[scarmack]

This is true. That's why im asking about it.

If your looking from a performance stand point, you wont need it until your bringing in 400+ hp, and even then its debatable. If you have the money and like it, go for it. My mindset is, it can only help.

[SD_GR]

My mindset is anything that interferes with the bumper beam is not a good thing. If an FMIC fits without modifications that might compromise crash integrity, then it's just a matter of cost:
- Cost to buy the FMIC and piping
- Cost to figure out how to get everything fitted
- Cost to figure out what has to be moved and/or replaced (intake, dump valve, etc.)
- Cost to swallow to replace all the above when, not if, the car is crashed since the insurance company will pay for what was insured, not what isn't -- unless the owner declares the new parts etc. I suppose

If it's not there, it cannot fail, it cannot compromise the bumper, it cannot cost anything to replace.

[90crxfreak]

I'll be getting a top mount because of those wonderful snow days

[Donkey]

Here is a good article to read:
ARE Cooling (Aluminium Radiators & Engineering P/L)

I you just want it for the looks,then buy any old kit. If you want it for performance then there is alittle more involved then just buying any old FMIC kit. The core size/core type,length/dia of charge tubes and your performance goals all come into play. And they don't all install the same either.