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This is a discussion on FMIC, when are they needed? within the Engine Modifications forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; So is an adtermarket tmic better to have then? Or leave it stock?...

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    So is an adtermarket tmic better to have then? Or leave it stock?
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    i don't think most would disagree that an upgraded tmic would be a good idea.

    if you plan on pushing the turbo, or upgrading, then it's a must.

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    Im confused. You're saying what again?? Haha
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    i think everyone would agree that upgrading the tmic would be good.

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    Ok ok gotcha haha
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    Agreed. The less your turbo needs to pressurize the better. (on a mostly stock application)

    A great...probably the best TMIC is the Process West one.
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    Ok I'm going to look into that. Where can that be found?
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    that's the tmic i have.

    it's made very well, and comes with eveything needed.

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    Sweet. I'm in love. This is a direct bolt on huh?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    My mindset is anything that interferes with the bumper beam is not a good thing. If an FMIC fits without modifications that might compromise crash integrity, then it's just a matter of cost:
    - Cost to buy the FMIC and piping
    - Cost to figure out how to get everything fitted
    - Cost to figure out what has to be moved and/or replaced (intake, dump valve, etc.)
    - Cost to swallow to replace all the above when, not if, the car is crashed since the insurance company will pay for what was insured, not what isn't -- unless the owner declares the new parts etc. I suppose

    If it's not there, it cannot fail, it cannot compromise the bumper, it cannot cost anything to replace.
    I'm glad somebody highlighted the safety item! Personally that's a big one for me. I'm not aware of any FMICs that allow you to keep the bumper/crash brace. The front of your car is the most likely place by far to have an impact and you've just removed one of the most key parts that protects you in a crash. That's not a sacrifice I'd be willing to make! If I went with a FMIC then I'd definitely be welding in some custom tubing as a structural support to replace the OEM crash bar.

    The Process West is already so good though as a TMIC that I just don't see the point in going with a FMIC where you introduce lag with all of that piping. I've never seen any really detailed studies on lag and temps with a TMIC versus a FMIC but my personal belief is the pros and cons between a TMIC and FMIC make it at the very least an even competition between the two designs, and since lag to me is the biggest thing I want to limit, the TMIC wins hands down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by teflon_jones
    I'm glad somebody highlighted the safety item! Personally that's a big one for me. I'm not aware of any FMICs that allow you to keep the bumper/crash brace. The front of your car is the most likely place by far to have an impact and you've just removed one of the most key parts that protects you in a crash. That's not a sacrifice I'd be willing to make! If I went with a FMIC then I'd definitely be welding in some custom tubing as a structural support to replace the OEM crash bar.

    The Process West is already so good though as a TMIC that I just don't see the point in going with a FMIC where you introduce lag with all of that piping. I've never seen any really detailed studies on lag and temps with a TMIC versus a FMIC but my personal belief is the pros and cons between a TMIC and FMIC make it at the very least an even competition between the two designs, and since lag to me is the biggest thing I want to limit, the TMIC wins hands down.
    Not sure on the newer MYs if any do, but on the previous chassis, the Injen didn't require removal/modification to the bumper beam. That said, the core was limited as a result.
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    racer x makes a fmic that allows you to keep your bumper beam.

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    Spearco also makes an excellent TMIC.. if cost is of concern the TurboXS is probably the cheapest TMIC I would consider.

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