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    >>shaft play<< rebuild or replace

    (04wrx) found out yesterday that my stock TD04 has a pretty good amount of shaft play (no side to side action just forward and back) I have never rebuilt a turbo before and dont have a lot of money to spend. Im not sure how long it has been this way but could the turbo let go while driving even while not in bOOst cause i have to drive teh car daily and will not be able to work on it for a couple weeks
    Should i get a rebuild kit or look into a replacement turbo
    -as always any help is appreciated greatly
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    How did you notice it. Did you have the DP off. what do you think caused it.

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    yeah i was installing a complete new exhaust header back and noticed it then. i have teh exhaust on and was planning on flashing stage 2 but not now cause it has me scared. i just putt putted to work today not getting into bOOst at all. Im not sure what caused it. i have only had teh car about 6 months. Im pretty sure teh car was previously modded before me though...
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    TD04's have shaft play within a 1000 miles of being new. Odds are it will still last a long time. A good used low mileage stocker can be had for $75 - $150, so it's not worth it to rebuild.

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    I was wondering what kills turbo's. People are always talking about shaft play. How do you mess up a turbo so bad it causes this. Improper tuning or malfunction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Not-EWRX View Post
    I was wondering what kills turbo's. People are always talking about shaft play. How do you mess up a turbo so bad it causes this. Improper tuning or malfunction?
    Poor oil change intervals, overheated oil, oil coking, hard track duty, overboosting, compressor surge, lack of coolant, etc etc.

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    turbo upgrade
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    Quote Originally Posted by Not-EWRX View Post
    I was wondering what kills turbo's. People are always talking about shaft play. How do you mess up a turbo so bad it causes this. Improper tuning or malfunction?
    The shaft bearing get messed up from things like Trainrex mentioned and that allows for excessive play.Excessive play = lateral play =contact with housings= banshee scream=metal shavings in intercooler=
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    the only way to eliminate shaft play is to replace the bearings and a rough quote from Blouch to replace the bearings in a TD-04 are about $300

    the rebuild kits usually only have new seals and such
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    A used but good td04 is between $100-$400.
    A used vf39 is between $300-$500.
    FP18G between $600-$800.

    I'd look at it as an opportunity to upgrade. At least to a vf39, but td04's can be had for much cheaper than rebuild costs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bkotzman00 View Post
    the only way to eliminate shaft play is to replace the bearings and a rough quote from Blouch to replace the bearings in a TD-04 are about $300

    the rebuild kits usually only have new seals and such
    The kit i bought came with upgraded bearings.Ran about $100.There are different kits.The one i have is for a full rebuild.
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    $350 for rebuilt & inspected TD04
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    my car just turned 50k and ive started to notice a weird sound when i let off teh gas like a screech whine noise, its been making a very faint sound like that for about a month, but i guess when i replaced teh exhaust you can really hear it now, kinda loud and annoying now, not to mention scary, i dont want it to blow and mess up my entire engine I think i will go with a good used VF39 now in getting a bigger turbo i will need to get STi TMIC and new pump and injectors also right??
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZACK777 View Post
    I think i will go with a good used VF39 now in getting a bigger turbo i will need to get STi TMIC and new pump and injectors also right??
    Yes.

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