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    Which would give better sound...

    Factory H/U - new speakers - amp

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    New H/U - new speakers - no amp

    Yeah, I know there are many variables to consider but just want to get some opinions.

    Thanks.

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    Speakers have the final "say" as to what sounds good. I'd opt for the first choice.

    A great aftermarket H/U will not sound very good with the OEM speakers.
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    Might have been a ninja edit, but OP listed new speakers for both options. You're never going to get a clean signal with the factory HU, to me that's the biggest consideration. But you also want to make sure you are supplying your new speakers with the amount of power they're designed for. You're more likely to blow a set of speakers by under powering them than by over powering them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MainFrame View Post
    Might have been a ninja edit, but OP listed new speakers for both options. You're never going to get a clean signal with the factory HU, to me that's the biggest consideration. But you also want to make sure you are supplying your new speakers with the amount of power they're designed for. You're more likely to blow a set of speakers by under powering them than by over powering them.
    He listed new speakers for both but changes options for the head unit and amp. Not sure which is best though. Might sound better with option 1.
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    Ivor Tiefenbrun said garbage in, garbage out.

    Pete Walker said all amps sound the same (when correctly designed and operated within their limits).

    I'd go option 2, matching the HU's output to the speakers carefully.
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    With option 2, the OP can always add an amplifier later on down the line if he feels that the aftermarket HU doesn't provide enough power.

    Now for one of my major complaints... With the shrinking size of Class D amplifiers, why aren't HU manufacturers integrating full-range class D into the HU? Many are still using, gasp, chipamps.

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    I would go with option 2 and work your way to subs and amps. I always work from the front back when it comes to stereos

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    just FYI, i did install my Pioneer X-930BT find on ebay for 650$ shipped. And i can tell you that with the stock radio sound was TERRIBLE ! Absolutly terrible i mean for a car of this price its pure crap.

    Now that my Pioneer HU is installed, the sound quality is reallyyyyy nice !!!! The speaker is now alive and my HU offer alot of settings so i can personalise my setting with the Equaliser.

    Dont change the speakers, change the HU first its the best option for sure.

    Oh and the Pioneer X-930 is awsome is you want a double din navigation bluetooth dvd player ( with the easy done bypass ) Oh and also the navigation is really good work like my garmin if not better.

    And you need the trim to make if fit like perfect. I will post picture and make a complete review soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roxxor View Post
    just FYI, i did install my Pioneer X-930BT find on ebay for 650$ shipped. And i can tell you that with the stock radio sound was TERRIBLE ! Absolutly terrible i mean for a car of this price its pure crap.

    Now that my Pioneer HU is installed, the sound quality is reallyyyyy nice !!!! The speaker is now alive and my HU offer alot of settings so i can personalise my setting with the Equaliser.

    Dont change the speakers, change the HU first its the best option for sure.

    Oh and the Pioneer X-930 is awsome is you want a double din navigation bluetooth dvd player ( with the easy done bypass ) Oh and also the navigation is really good work like my garmin if not better.

    And you need the trim to make if fit like perfect. I will post picture and make a complete review soon.
    Great info. Could you post up some pics, prices and place you got it from.
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    for sure i will do it soon

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    New head unit, Then order your speakers and amp set up to work with the head unit you pick.

    Everything must work hand in hand. The head unit is going to play in a certain range. You'll want your amps and speakers to match this. Then make sure you do not over lap your speaker range much.

    My set up in my 2500hd is:
    Sony head unit
    Polk 6.5 separates in the front doors
    Polk 3x6 in rear doors
    2x Polk 8's
    2x RF T2 12's dual VC running 2 ohms
    450w kicker amp for the doors
    600w kicker amp for the 8's
    2x 700.1 for the 12's
    2x 1 farad caps
    1 redtop battery
    0 gauge wire and fuse blocks at the battery and again at the amps.

    The 12's are just for over kill. I love when gangsters roll up bumping walmart **** and I reach over to level the smack down in my truck. I can play pretty much anything and it will bump. I also run out of air space in the cab. So when the 12's come up all windows need to be down.

    Make sure you figure out what ohms you will be running and take a pen and pencil out your plan. Your power wire, RCA cables and speaker wire will need to be run correctly also to keep the noise down. Don't go cheap on the RCA's... Cheap RCA's on a good system is like looking at porn on a old tube TV when you have a killer 65 inch lcd next to you.
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    And if you get that far ... A good box. I have had to fix my 12 inch box and few times over before I just built a solid box.

    And do not cut the harness, You can get install kits that make everything plug and play now days. No need to hack up the factory wiring harness to install and radio.
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