Yeah buy JLs and you buy a name.. The are so overpriced. I bought two Infinity 12s and got a free box at Circuit City, and then bought a crappy Pyramid 1000 watt 2 channel amp on eBay. My "system" subs and an amp cost me about $250 and it sounds great. The subwoofers can supposedly handle up to 1200watts a piece. I don't see why anyone would spend so much on JLs unless there were trying to show off a name brand.