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This is a discussion on The opti-coat thread within the Detailing Forum forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Ok all... for those of you who don't know much about Opti-coat (OC) I have started this thread to discuss ...

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    Ok all... for those of you who don't know much about Opti-coat (OC) I have started this thread to discuss it. There are several members here who have done their own cars already as well as myself. Subaru and Japanese car paint has a notorious problem of very soft and thin paint. Partially because of their laws about emissions over there from what I understand, but whatever the reason, this stuff is excellent to add to the paint to give it some extra hardness and protection. Other members can chime in with their experiences as well.

    I am in no way affiliated with Optimum, nor do I work for any company (other than working as a detailer on my own) so I have no sponsors or anything of the sort.

    Claims that Optimum makes:

    1. A layer of OC 2.0 is appoximately 2 microns thick (about 100 layers of your average wax)
    2. Once fully cured OC hardness is at a level 9h hardness
    3. OC is scratch resistant (not scratch proof!)
    4. OC is claimed to be a permanent coating... it's not, but with care you can get 2 years or more out of it.
    5. Waxes and sealants will not stick well to OC. I spoke with someone from Optimum and his response about what would last longer than other products was Optimum's Opti-seal (I have never tried it). They claimed it to last 2-3 months on OC if one wanted added slickness.
    6. OC will spot fairly badly, with city water, hard water, etc etc dry the car IMMEDIATELY after washing.
    7. As I read from an interview with one of the higher ups at Optimum... it is said that Opti-coat does not break down under most extreme heat, so it may be used on wheels, exhausts (which one member here has done) brake calipers, underhood plastics, wheel well plastics or metals, outside plastics around mirrors, between pillars, etc.
    8. ANY area that is to be coated MUST be cleaned thoroughly with a mixture of alcohol and water. (I used 50/50 but less alcohol can be used) You can also add 1-2 small drops of standard dish soap to ensure all oils are cleaned from the area to be done.
    9. OC is not a slick finish once fully cured and not a beauty type of product, but a nice clean car always brings out good looks from it IMO.
    10. OC will not stick to itself once cured (also from the same interview with Optimum I read). It is claimed however that a slight polishing will rough it up enough to add a layer to it.
    11. The only ways of getting OC off of your finish are a full polish, sanding, or special chemical removal.
    12. To get the best look, either get your car fully polished and paint straight and looking the way you want before adding OC, so you can have that look "locked" in, or do the car when it's brand new... make sure you look it over well and be certain you are happy with how the paint looks prior to adding OC.


    As I said, several other members have done their cars and can also chime in with their experience. With this type of paint being so easily chipped and scratched I highly do recommend this product.

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    Nice info! I want to do this now lol.

    This needs sticky.
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    Got my Opti-Coat, hoping to apply it this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas280z View Post
    Got my Opti-Coat, hoping to apply it this weekend. I'll let you guys know how it turns out.
    awesome man... are you going to polish or just clean the car up and put it on?

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    I did the Opti-Coat yesterday. I did not polish, as I only got the car 3 weeks ago. I did give it a VERY thorough wash, it was significantly nicer than when I picked it up. Application was not as easy as everyone else said, at least at first. Couple of pointers I wish I had had were to be CERTAIN that your light is sufficient, and to start on a small panel first.

    Light wise, I tried doing it in my front garage, to try to get out of the heat, but I could not get enough light to work with. Once I rolled the car out half way from the garage, into the shade made by the garage, I had much better success seeing what I was doing.

    My other mistake was starting with the roof. I followed the instructions on the package, but the initial amount I put on the pad was only enough for about 1/4 of the roof. I would suggest starting with a fender, to get a feel for the amount that you need to put on the pad for adequate coverage.

    One thing that I did, especially because I could not see the product flashing/high spots at first, was to wipe the entire panel down lightly with a microfiber towel about 5 minutes after application. It seems to have worked, because I can see no high spots today.

    But, without a doubt, the worst thing about Opti-Coat is the applicator. I have big hands, and had a very hard time holding onto it. Many times, it folded over itself, or jumped out of my hand when I got to a tacky spot. If I could tell the folks who make Opti-Coat to improve one thing, it would be the applicator.

    Now for the good. THIS STUFF WORKS. My dad was very skeptical of it, thinking that it was too difficult to apply and would leave visible high spots, all said and done he is very impressed by it. My method of wiping the entire panel ensured that I would have no high spots. He also didn't think it would be as good at repelling water as a good coat of Mothers. Today, I hit the hood and fender with a hose and both he and I were shocked at how the water just jumps off the panels. 3 minutes with a microfiber towel and the panels were completely dry with no water spotting. Now my dad is planning on using the remaining 10 cc's on his 350z.

    I can't wait for the car to get a little dirty, so I can see how effective it is when I go for the first wash.

    On a side note, I just hit 950 miles. SO CLOSE. I'll be honest, I've been hitting 5,000 rpm every now and then for the last 50 or so miles, but I am not concerned. I am going to use my free oil change sometime this next week, and then it will be warp speed from there.

    On a side note to the side note, I drove my dad's 350z around a bit today. I can't wait to get a short throw shifter, other than that, I think I prefer my Scooby (Ok, the low end torque on the VQ35HR is addictive as well).
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    I just read that with Opti Coat "You can seamlessly layer the coating on full panels and spot repairs for around 30 days or until it's fully hardened."

    I think I might layer some areas after I wash the car next weekend. Get a really good coat on the front clip to protect from life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas280z View Post
    I just read that with Opti Coat "You can seamlessly layer the coating on full panels and spot repairs for around 30 days or until it's fully hardened."

    I think I might layer some areas after I wash the car next weekend. Get a really good coat on the front clip to protect from life.

    I have not read anything about layering it on without using some sort of light polish so that the OC can stick to something since it won't stick to itself.... perhaps it will though, I have not had any luck.

    I put my OC on my car at about 800 miles I guess... so far now at almost 3k I have no sandblasting and no chips on the front of the car so I don't know that I would worry to much about layering.. but hey, if it makes you feel good about it then by all means go for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas280z View Post
    I did the Opti-Coat yesterday ... ... Today, I hit the hood and fender with a hose and both he and I were shocked at how the water just jumps off the panels.
    Aren't we supposed to wait a week or two before trying to wash the car? I don't think it's fully cured until several days/weeks after applying...

    Quote Originally Posted by jas280z View Post
    But, without a doubt, the worst thing about Opti-Coat is the applicator. I have big hands, and had a very hard time holding onto it. Many times, it folded over itself, or jumped out of my hand when I got to a tacky spot. If I could tell the folks who make Opti-Coat to improve one thing, it would be the applicator.
    +1 Dude I dropped that applicator more times than I can count. Good thing I took note of some unique characteristic of the side I put the stuff on, or I would have been wiping the car with the wrong side of the applicator half the time.
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    On a side note, I have a bit of my IPA solution left over in the squirt bottle. Is it OK to use this on small areas of paint after washing the car?

    I noticed that our cars continue to drip water for almost an entire friggin day after washing it and it leaves little soap spots all over my rocker panels/side skirts. I guess the doors drain down through little tiny holes at the bottom of the door panels, and this just drips all over the car if the doors are closed. I figured out that the IPA solution makes short work of them once they have dried, but I'm wondering if there's any harm to the OC when I do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by etnpnys View Post
    On a side note, I have a bit of my IPA solution left over in the squirt bottle. Is it OK to use this on small areas of paint after washing the car?

    I noticed that our cars continue to drip water for almost an entire friggin day after washing it and it leaves little soap spots all over my rocker panels/side skirts. I guess the doors drain down through little tiny holes at the bottom of the door panels, and this just drips all over the car if the doors are closed. I figured out that the IPA solution makes short work of them once they have dried, but I'm wondering if there's any harm to the OC when I do this.
    Nope, it won't hurt it at all. There are tests where even acid was applied to OC and it didn't get it off so alcohol definitely won't matter. You just have to blow dry those areas out really well. Some people choose to use megs or some other quick detailer after or during drying.

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    did any of you guys find good deals on this stuff? or did you just pay retail. i'm very interested in this. being on my second black car

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vash337 View Post
    did any of you guys find good deals on this stuff? or did you just pay retail. i'm very interested in this. being on my second black car
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    My earlier quote was directly from an Optimum rep on a detailing forum, you are good to layer for 30 days or so. Also, you are safe from water in an hour, and to wash in 1 day, they say wait a week before using other detergents though.

    Best deal I found was a place offering free shipping.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jas280z View Post
    My earlier quote was directly from an Optimum rep on a detailing forum, you are good to layer for 30 days or so. Also, you are safe from water in an hour, and to wash in 1 day, they say wait a week before using other detergents though.

    Best deal I found was a place offering free shipping.
    Have you tried to layer OC over another layer before? I have and it doesn't seem to flash away at all. I think it should be noted that supposedly, layering OC really doesn't have much of a benefit... can't prove that, just have seen a few very good detailers say it.

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