any good steps BEFORE claybar?
+ Reply to Thread
Results 1 to 7 of 7

This is a discussion on any good steps BEFORE claybar? within the Detailing Forum forums, part of the Tech & Modifying & General Repairs category; Whats up everyone. I have off friday, and I bought a mothers brand claybar, and the mothers 3 step ultimate ...

  1. #1
    Registered User Graham46's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Harford County, MD
    Posts
    743

    any good steps BEFORE claybar?

    Whats up everyone. I have off friday, and I bought a mothers brand claybar, and the mothers 3 step ultimate wax system (I read about it another thread, apparently very good)

    My car was somewhat detailed at the dealership but not thoroughly, I see lots of swirls and what not. The previous owner probably didnt really care if it looked perfect either.

    I really wanna make it shine, and dont care how long it takes... so just curious, are there any steps that should be taken before using the claybar (besides washing it of course)? For instance, I got some rubbing compound for the minor scratches-- some of them disappeared completely, so Im guessing they werent even really scratches, so does the clay also get rid of those types of marks? I am nervous about using more rubbing compound than I need to (again here, is this a valid fear or do you have to rub all day to do any damage with that stuff?)

    Any thoughts/feedback/stories would be great before I spend several hours doing the entire car on friday.

    Thanks
    2006 WRB WRX Sedan @ Stage 2

    www.grahamsnodgrass.com

  2. Remove Advertisements
    ClubWRX.net
    Advertisements
     

  3. #2
    Moderator T0rque's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Medford, Oregon
    Posts
    25,522
    I Support ClubWRX
    Here is what I do..

    Wash my car with blue dawn dish soap.

    Take the hose and wet a panel clay bar the panel with the water going on the panel. Go all over the car.

    I wash the car with a mixture of meguiars gold class, meguiars shampoo.

    Paint seal the car, I use a blue coral product

    I an entire coat of scratch x

    3 coats of meguiars nxt

    3 coats of meguiars gold glass.

    You can finish with meguiars paint seal.. I don't.


    Lead Wrench @ WTF Tuning, LLC

  4. #3
    Registered User Graham46's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Harford County, MD
    Posts
    743
    Got any before and after pics? That sounds like my kind of routine, very thorough... unfortunately, I already bought an entirely different assortment of products heh. Thanks for your reply

    Oh, and why dish soap?
    2006 WRB WRX Sedan @ Stage 2

    www.grahamsnodgrass.com

  5. #4
    Moderator T0rque's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Medford, Oregon
    Posts
    25,522
    I Support ClubWRX
    dawn dish soap removes all grease and grime from your paint so your clay lasts a little longer and does its job a little better.

    Ok so if you change the words meguiars NXT to SYNTHETIC WAX

    and meguiars gold class to carnuba wax

    your products should do just fine, synthetic wax lasts longer so you put it on the base, you put the carnuba on top to bring out the depth and the pearl in the paint. Carnuba wax doesnt last so I also do a carnuba coat every other week or 1-2 times per month


    Lead Wrench @ WTF Tuning, LLC

  6. #5
    Registered User Graham46's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Harford County, MD
    Posts
    743
    Cool man, thanks a lot Do you use terry cloth or micro fiber to wash it too, or do you just use a big sponge?
    2006 WRB WRX Sedan @ Stage 2

    www.grahamsnodgrass.com

  7. #6
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2010
    Location
    Shakopee, MN
    Posts
    33
    Dawn is not recommended as a soap for washing a car. It's fine every now and then and I know people use it, but over time it can dry out plastic trim and seals. Even Dawn themselves suggest not using it to wash your car.


    If you plan to clay the car all you need is a good thorough wash with something like Meguiars Gold Class soap. (if you want something local)

    After washing it's a good idea to remove any tar on the lowers if you have any using a tar remover like Stoners Tarminator, which can also be found in local auto stores. Tar will trash a clay bar in no time and they are rather expensive IMO. Once you've removed the tar you will want to rewash those areas as Tarminator will have a negative effect on the clay bar itself if you don't.

    No you can clay. You don't want to use a polish prior to claying because you would basically be rubbing in all those bonded surface contaminants which could potentially marr the finish. Clay bar is specifically designed to remove those bonded surface contaminants so that you have a nice clean surface prior to polishing.

    After claying you can proceed to polish the car and seal.

    Basic steps should go as follows:

    Wash
    Clay
    polish
    Glaze (optional)
    protect (wax or sealant)

    No need to make it any more complicated than that.


    I can suggest some products if you like, just need to know if your working by hand or with a DA style polisher (PC/G110)


    Rasky

  8. #7
    Registered User Graham46's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Harford County, MD
    Posts
    743
    I did everything today and it turned out awesomeeee

    I washed (using like an eco friendly dish soap, forget what brand.... didnt see your post about it not being the best idea till just now) then clayed, then used the mothers steps 2 and 3 with is the sealant and carnuba wax

    While I was doing the carnuba, my friend (who didnt need to at all but he did anyway) used armor-all on all the black plastic inside and out and it looks fresh as hell. He even used a q tip to go back and forth between all the pieces of the grill and it made a huge difference, the car looks mean as ever right now.

    Very happy with the way it looks but Im sure itll get muddy in no time haha. Oh well. It was my first time using a claybar though and I was very impressed. Sadly though whoever had the car before me probably didnt care about how it looked at all so it seems like theres some parts of it that will never look perfect unless I get it repainted.
    2006 WRB WRX Sedan @ Stage 2

    www.grahamsnodgrass.com

+ Reply to Thread

Quick Reply Quick Reply

Register Now

Please enter the name by which you would like to log-in and be known on this site.
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.

Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Please enter a valid email address for yourself. We strongly suggest that you stay away from using aol, yahoo, msn, and hotmail accounts. Sometimes the mail server blocks the emails from our server. As a result you will not receive any notifications including the confirmation email.

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.


Posting Permissions

  • You may post new threads
  • You may post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •