A turbo car with DP and exhaust is basically stock?? That's AT LEAST 20whp (probably more like 30whp) over stock. I don't know what your definition of "basically stock" is...but mine wouldn't include at least 20 extra whp. Hell...the Z hardly has more that 20 extra whp over stock with his mods.Originally Posted by TurboWillThat car still has a stock head/cam setup and guys have seen very decent gains with just cams..not even talking about headwork.-350z is maxed out on power unless it goes turbo/supercharger.You can't honestly sit here and compare modability of a factory N/A car (without using forced induction) to a factory turbo car. OBVIOUSLY the factory turbo car will be much easier to get power out of. If that's the only excuse you have it's pretty lame.-Raise the boost on that STi and give it a good ECU tune. Kiss that Z good byGod damn...more excuses. The contest was to see which car was faster...not which one could launch harder/had better traction. FInd me a stock or light bolt-on STi in the chicago area and I'll run it from a dig...but I can guarantee I won't be on anything less than drag radials.Now take the same car's and run from a dig. I bet you won't see any 350Z video's racing from a stop Why? because that Sti would have murdered it.