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This is a discussion on America's Most Wanted - A Street Racer within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally posted by Akiata While it is sad that those people died in a street racing accident there are THOUSANDS ...

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    Originally posted by Akiata
    While it is sad that those people died in a street racing accident there are THOUSANDS killed and Thousands injured from drunk driving.

    Why aren't there stiffer laws about drinking and driving? Why are there still bars? You have to drive yourself home after a night of drinking......... I love america.

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    No, you don't have to drive yourself home after drinking at the bar. There are such things as taxicabs, and many towns and cities even offer shuttle services specifically intended to take drunk drivers home. Worst case; you can sleep it off for a few hours in your car.

    I agree; drinking and driving is just as irresponsible as street racing. Maybe more so.

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    When it comes to drink driving - this country can only blame itself. Coming from Australia the attitude is quite different. Our road safety commercials on television are far more graphic and real than anything here in the USA (far more so than prime time would allow here) but that is the reality.

    Drink Driving is no bad luck - it is a crime. That is a bill board slogan in Australia. The limit is 0.05, not 0.08 or higher as in some US states and the bullsh1t sobriety tests that they do here are not the way we do it.

    Drivers under 21 have a 0 alcohol limit (you can drink at 18 in Oz)

    EVERY cop car or bike has a breathaliser and can randon breath test any driver regardless of driving behaviour (as I understand it, here you have to be driving in a fashion that suggests you are under the influence).

    There are random breath tests set up all over Australian cities that stop literally 1000's of motorists every weekend. Next 10 cars are all stopped and they have bikes in the side streets so that if you see the booze bus (as we call it) they stop everyone trying to go around it. You blow in the bag all the time in Australia. If you are caught you get a criminal record - you'll lose your licence for a minimum of 12 months and probably be paying over $1500 in fines. That is if you are caught as a result of a random breath test and have not done anyone or anything any damage. You get caught as a result of hitting someone or something and you can double those numbers and add months to years in jail.

    Pubs (bars) will give free soda to designated drivers. They will call cabs. The public transport runs later than in American cities.

    I am not out to flame anyone here, but having a law and not empowering the police to enforce it effectively is not going to reduce drink driving. Try losing a friend to drink driving and you too will become a strong advocate and show little tolerance for those who endanger us all.

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    Originally posted by aussieinstlouis
    When it comes to drink driving - this country can only blame itself. Coming from Australia the attitude is quite different. Our road safety commercials on television are far more graphic and real than anything here in the USA (far more so than prime time would allow here) but that is the reality.

    Drink Driving is no bad luck - it is a crime. That is a bill board slogan in Australia. The limit is 0.05, not 0.08 or higher as in some US states and the bullsh1t sobriety tests that they do here are not the way we do it.

    Drivers under 21 have a 0 alcohol limit (you can drink at 18 in Oz)

    EVERY cop car or bike has a breathaliser and can randon breath test any driver regardless of driving behaviour (as I understand it, here you have to be driving in a fashion that suggests you are under the influence).

    There are random breath tests set up all over Australian cities that stop literally 1000's of motorists every weekend. Next 10 cars are all stopped and they have bikes in the side streets so that if you see the booze bus (as we call it) they stop everyone trying to go around it. You blow in the bag all the time in Australia. If you are caught you get a criminal record - you'll lose your licence for a minimum of 12 months and probably be paying over $1500 in fines. That is if you are caught as a result of a random breath test and have not done anyone or anything any damage. You get caught as a result of hitting someone or something and you can double those numbers and add months to years in jail.

    Pubs (bars) will give free soda to designated drivers. They will call cabs. The public transport runs later than in American cities.

    I am not out to flame anyone here, but having a law and not empowering the police to enforce it effectively is not going to reduce drink driving. Try losing a friend to drink driving and you too will become a strong advocate and show little tolerance for those who endanger us all.
    its good to hear some country out there is doing it right.

    people always looked at me weird when i said i wanted to move to austrailia/NZ

    its so hard to explain to them the different mentality i have experienced from their peoples.
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    Britain has similar policies and mechanisms in place as Australia. When I first came here, I couldn't believe how socially acceptable it was (is) to drink and drive. Across the pond, a person who DUIs is pretty much regarded in a similar light to someone who gets caught with kiddie porn; that is, a low-down good for nothing scumbag! It's a big deal in Britain when somebody you know gets caught. They invariably lose their license for 12 months on the first offense. I think the second offense results in jail time.

    As in AUS, every cop carries either a 'breathaliser bag' or one of the new electronic devices that you blow into. They are very accurate, and since two drinks can put some people over the legal limit it's generally safer not to drink at all. Especially if you do not have the self discipline to limit yourself to ONE drink, which is what I personally consider safe for most people, and just about all the law will tolerate over there.

    Of course, 1 pint of Guiness = 5 bottles of Bud Light in terms of alcohol content, so maybe that's why Brits are so much more stringent! LOL.

    Just my 2c.

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    If anyone is interested I have an excel spreadsheet that will calc blood alcohol based on body weight, drinks consumed and elapsed time. i cannot attach it because it is an excel spreadsheet.

    PM me if you are interested.

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