03 WRX vs 05 Legacy GT

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    03 WRX vs 05 Legacy GT

    Both cars are Cobb stage 2, if both drivers were comparable who would win. We will go from a stop and from a roll. I will race him later this month with the results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reyneon
    Both cars are Cobb stage 2, if both drivers were comparable who would win. We will go from a stop and from a roll. I will race him later this month with the results.

    I have no idea what gains cobb stage 2 gives a legacy GT.
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    GT would take it no problem i would think
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    The GT starts out with higher base numbers, so I would think with basic bolt ons, it would therefore have a higher overall? Weight is not that different is it?
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    WRX Gains +54.5hp
    WRX Gains +49lbs

    GT Gains +41.4hp
    GT Gains +66.6lbs


    Well stock for stock these cars are just about equal from a dig at least. From the cobb sites data its hard to tell since the wrx gains more whp but the legacy gains more torque. You would think the torque would help you off line and i think the Legacy has a higher trap then the wrx but the wrx is faster off the line so this could make up for the wrx being faster off the line, while at the same time the more whp that the wrx gains would even it out more from a roll, thus putting these cars just about dead even again. The driver will win this race.
    2005 WRX (Short throw shifter, lightweight pulley,STI Splitters,Tein H-Tech springs,Up/Down Pipe, ERZ Catback, Cobb Stage 2, ASA JH8 with Yokohama ES 100s) 13.680@100.46mph

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    You can't look at the overall whp numbers, since the legacy GT starts out with a much higher number yet its even to the wrx in a 1/4 sprint. You have to look at the changes in the numbers to figure out what car is gaining what over the other.
    2005 WRX (Short throw shifter, lightweight pulley,STI Splitters,Tein H-Tech springs,Up/Down Pipe, ERZ Catback, Cobb Stage 2, ASA JH8 with Yokohama ES 100s) 13.680@100.46mph

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    WRX even with LGT in 1/4 mile? Might be, but given good drivers, the LGT seems to be faster by a bit. Say 3 mph and a few tenths on average. Little faster to 60 as well.

    14.1-14.4 at 96 mph for the LGT versus the 14.4-14.7 at 93 for the WRX. and 5.6-5.9 for the LGT to 60 versus the 5.8-6.1 for the WRX.

    -B

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanboy
    WRX even with LGT in 1/4 mile? Might be, but given good drivers, the LGT seems to be faster by a bit. Say 3 mph and a few tenths on average. Little faster to 60 as well.

    14.1-14.4 at 96 mph for the LGT versus the 14.4-14.7 at 93 for the WRX. and 5.6-5.9 for the LGT to 60 versus the 5.8-6.1 for the WRX.



    -B
    Seems like you are taking the faster numbers for the LGT and the slower numbers for the WRX, if you take the fastest numbers for both the wrx and the LGT are basically 14.1 and 0-60 5.5 or so the LGT has a higher trap speed, but if you look at the Cobb stuff it shows that the wrx gains 13 or so more WHP but the LGT gains 17 or so more lbs. I think they are basically gonna be dead even since torque isn't a huge factor with an awd launch.
    2005 WRX (Short throw shifter, lightweight pulley,STI Splitters,Tein H-Tech springs,Up/Down Pipe, ERZ Catback, Cobb Stage 2, ASA JH8 with Yokohama ES 100s) 13.680@100.46mph

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    Any recent test has the WRX at around 6 seconds to 60 with 14.5+ seconds in the 1/4 mile. Don't want to mag race:

    Road and Track:
    Acceleration, 060 mph 6.2 sec
    1/4 mile 14.8 sec @ 91.6 mph

    Car and Driver
    2002 WRX 5MT sedan long-term test.
    Zero to 60 mph 5.9 sec 5.9 sec
    Zero to 100 mph 17.5 sec 17.3 sec
    Street start, 5-60 mph 7.4 sec 7.5 sec
    Standing 1/4-mile 14.6 sec @ 93 mph 14.5 sec @ 93 mph

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    0-60 6.0 seconds

    I don't know, the limited number of tests I've seen for the LGT are a few ticks faster along with a better trap speed. "Real-world" time slips are showing they may sneak in the high, high 13.xx range like the Forester XT.

    On the subject of the Forester XT, folks think that is faster or about the same as the WRX?

    Anyway, getting off-topic... The Stage 2 comparision would be interesting. Would be nice to have a Soobie day at a track and get all the turbo models there in various states of tune, from mild to wild. Be neat to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanboy
    Any recent test has the WRX at around 6 seconds to 60 with 14.5+ seconds in the 1/4 mile. Don't want to mag race:

    Road and Track:
    Acceleration, 060 mph 6.2 sec
    1/4 mile 14.8 sec @ 91.6 mph

    Car and Driver
    2002 WRX 5MT sedan long-term test.
    Zero to 60 mph 5.9 sec 5.9 sec
    Zero to 100 mph 17.5 sec 17.3 sec
    Street start, 5-60 mph 7.4 sec 7.5 sec
    Standing 1/4-mile 14.6 sec @ 93 mph 14.5 sec @ 93 mph

    Automobile:
    WRX
    0-60 6.0 seconds

    I don't know, the limited number of tests I've seen for the LGT are a few ticks faster along with a better trap speed. "Real-world" time slips are showing they may sneak in the high, high 13.xx range like the Forester XT.

    On the subject of the Forester XT, folks think that is faster or about the same as the WRX?

    Anyway, getting off-topic... The Stage 2 comparision would be interesting. Would be nice to have a Soobie day at a track and get all the turbo models there in various states of tune, from mild to wild. Be neat to see.

    -B

    From what i have seen the fastest mag numbers for a LGT was a 14.2 not sure the mph, for the wrx was a 14.1. Those are the fastest mag numbers for each car. Mag racing doesn't mean everything but it gives you a pretty good idea.
    2005 WRX (Short throw shifter, lightweight pulley,STI Splitters,Tein H-Tech springs,Up/Down Pipe, ERZ Catback, Cobb Stage 2, ASA JH8 with Yokohama ES 100s) 13.680@100.46mph

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanboy
    Any recent test has the WRX at around 6 seconds to 60 with 14.5+ seconds in the 1/4 mile. Don't want to mag race:

    Road and Track:
    Acceleration, 060 mph 6.2 sec
    1/4 mile 14.8 sec @ 91.6 mph

    Car and Driver
    2002 WRX 5MT sedan long-term test.
    Zero to 60 mph 5.9 sec 5.9 sec
    Zero to 100 mph 17.5 sec 17.3 sec
    Street start, 5-60 mph 7.4 sec 7.5 sec
    Standing 1/4-mile 14.6 sec @ 93 mph 14.5 sec @ 93 mph

    Automobile:
    WRX
    0-60 6.0 seconds

    I don't know, the limited number of tests I've seen for the LGT are a few ticks faster along with a better trap speed. "Real-world" time slips are showing they may sneak in the high, high 13.xx range like the Forester XT.

    On the subject of the Forester XT, folks think that is faster or about the same as the WRX?

    Anyway, getting off-topic... The Stage 2 comparision would be interesting. Would be nice to have a Soobie day at a track and get all the turbo models there in various states of tune, from mild to wild. Be neat to see.

    -B

    And if you check out what people are running here with a stock wrx most people are hitting 14.3 which is faster then those posted numbers, even a few have hit 14.1 bone stock. And the mph is usually around 93-94 with some 95-96. Once again those numbers you posted are some of the slowest i have seen.
    2005 WRX (Short throw shifter, lightweight pulley,STI Splitters,Tein H-Tech springs,Up/Down Pipe, ERZ Catback, Cobb Stage 2, ASA JH8 with Yokohama ES 100s) 13.680@100.46mph

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    Woot...I want a Stage 2 Legacy GT.

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    They're nice

    FWIW, my car with just a MBC and a K&N is returning the same timeslips as the ECU-modded cars so far. My track results were at 15 psi and I now run 17. I also have this uppipe that I still haven't gotten around to installing. Looks nice though

    Don't put too much stock in the 1/4 mile times -- the stock tires suck for launching. My best was a 1.89 60ft. and I've been launching AWDs for 14 years.

    Seriously, I sold two cars to concentrate on one "regular" sedan and it's been a blast. As soon as FP releases a Green that fits the LGT, I'll be packing some serious HP.
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    fuel to weight...
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