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    The 03 Cobra seems to be a great car for the money. But $34k compared to $24k for a WRX, the WRX is definetly the best bang for the buck. If I invested $10k into my WRX it would run circles around a stock Cobra. Just my 2 cents.

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    Originally posted by LIL SS



    One thing you forget to mention. They will help on the top end due to the reduction of rotating mass. It's kind of a catch 22 if you know what I mean.
    Generally, lightened flywheels will not help on the top end. There's a dyno sheet around somewhere (BMW related) that showed some gains in gears 1,2, but after that and no gain. If you think about it for a sec, less weight means it's easier to get spinning, like a lighter car is easier to get moving. Once you're in motion the weight doesnt make that much of a difference. Lightened flywheels make less of a difference as the RPMs climb.
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    Originally posted by 03Cobra
    This was my best 60'. I mostly do 2.1's. If I could get my 60' down I'd be in the mid 12's STOCK! I guess for every 1/10 of a second on the 60' you pick up about 2/10ths or 3/10ths in the 1/4...

    Not a flame, but I get a kick out of "STOCK". Stock means squat, look at what you're starting with...a supercharged 300ci+ V8. The new Vipers will throw down 500HP....STOCK! The 03 Civic will throw down 160HP - - STOCK! =)

    The WRX is a low compression 190ci turbocharged H4....it's like bringing a .22 to a 9mm gun fight. It's small, it's accurate, it'll do the job but will get lost when the big boys start to open up.

    The Mustank has finally gotten some balls under the hood, now if they'd get some styling cues (must ban the Mullet crowd) and make the interior something fitting for a crapload of HP, I'd be drooling. It's soooooooooooo easy to make gonzo HP out of a V8! That's the WHOLE reason why guys in puny 4 cylinders get such wood when beating any V8. 10's in a V8 should be done in NA form to be news worthy. Most seem to have forgotten about the 60s.

    I wonder if we will start seeing a trend where the V8 builders will start applying some of the technology gained in 4's, like variable valve timing, cam timing, variable intake runners, variable exhaust, etc....oh wait...that's a Corvette... =) Seriously though...you'd start seeing 400hp V8s popping up all over the place, without FI.
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    Originally posted by Master Of Pain
    Climbing out of the hole with 500HP and 600TQ in a 5000LB RWD truck is a hard thing to do. Same with the Cobra. You have to learn how to do it!
    I'm not so much of a drag racer....but I've been awed by the F150 L. ....how are they on the highway? What's it like to punch it from 80mph on up to 120-130 or so? What can you hang with? Then, how scarey is it at 130-140-150? What about the light rear end, does that bite when having to do a little traffic football? I'm a road racer type.
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    MADWAGON: I think you r mistaken. 60's muscle cars went 14's and 13's. 12's at best (426 Hemi, buick GS, 440, etc...) NO one I mean NO ONE went 10's in the 60's stock... NOt even a 427 Vette. Even the AC Cobra did low twelves cause of tire technology. Then are loow to mid 11 second cars, I've seen them.

    I think the Mustang interior is not that bad at all. Matter of fact I think the Vettes have crappy interior for what you pay.

    Trust me, the 03 Cobra is very nice to drive and nice on the inside. Dont knock them until you've driven one! I've driven both WREX and own the 03.
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    I want an 03 Cobra... Besides the fact that my girl is obsessed with mustangs and i raced a 03 Cobra on the street at the street races and beat him.... then i raced one on the highway and got walked (yeah i know 2 cars with ****ty toppend) Im still really impressed with the cobra, i got to test drive one and the guy at the dealership let me REALLY get on it, spun 1st and second then finally hooked and it pulled VERY nicely... I still would like it in an automatic though, since im more of a bracket style racer and i think manuals are limited once you get into the 11 second range in temrs of consistency and a good street clutch setup.


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    You know I was used to kickin my old Z28 Auto in the ass all the time. Could do 1.6 and 1.7 60's with 3.73 rear.

    This car is a 6 speed and its nice to be able to control the speed and power when you like, but as for drag racing... Give me an automatic! They ROCK becuase they can shift MUCH faster than I can... 03's dont have the option... Plus you loose some RWHP with the auto...
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    Best of both worlds?

    Originally posted by 03Cobra
    This car is a 6 speed and its nice to be able to control the speed and power when you like, but as for drag racing... Give me an automatic! They ROCK becuase they can shift MUCH faster than I can... 03's dont have the option... Plus you loose some RWHP with the auto...
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    I've seen the 02 M# and its awsome. BIG price tag I'm sure, but VERY nice car. Got a cousin who owns a BMW-Porsche dealership... Might have to pay him a visit!
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    Originally posted by madwagon


    I'm not so much of a drag racer....but I've been awed by the F150 L. ....how are they on the highway? What's it like to punch it from 80mph on up to 120-130 or so? What can you hang with? Then, how scarey is it at 130-140-150? What about the light rear end, does that bite when having to do a little traffic football? I'm a road racer type.
    I used to AutoX the beast. It handles better than a Mustang and on par with the late model Cobra's. It can follow a M3 through most curves. I've taken mine up to 150, stable all the way.

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    Originally posted by TURBLOWN
    The 03 Cobra seems to be a great car for the money. But $34k compared to $24k for a WRX, the WRX is definetly the best bang for the buck. If I invested $10k into my WRX it would run circles around a stock Cobra. Just my 2 cents.
    I'd have to disagree. The WRX ISN'T the best "bang" for the buck(to me ). Its the best "all-purpose sports sedan" for the buck, but certainly not the "bang". The 03' Cobra is THE fastest car for 35K. I own both an 02 Camaro SS and an 02 WRX so I'm by no means being biased.

    An excellent driver will see 12.6s

    A decent driver will see 12.8-9s

    A crappy driver will see 13s.

    These engines are built for boost. All they have to do is put the power to the ground efficiently. Lightly modded Cobras will see low 12s and maybe even high 11s.
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    The WRX is the fastest car for 24K. The 03 Cobra is also the fastest car for 35K. But with the extra 11K to spend on the WRX it will out perform the Cobra. That's just my opinion. I love the power that the Cobra is pushing stock and it's potential for more but it's still a Mustang. I went to look at them today and the sticker was 35K plus "market adjustment" - $5500...not sure if it's like that everywhere but damn that sucks. Personally, I don't like the looks of the Mustang and it still has the same crappy interior, although I did like the leather and suede seats.
    I like my WRX way more then I like the Cobra. I will beat a stock one and look better doing it in a 4cylinder 4 door sedan with a lot less invested. Again, that's just my opinion...and that's what counts.
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    Originally posted by TURBLOWN
    The WRX is the fastest car for 24K. The 03 Cobra is also the fastest car for 35K. But with the extra 11K to spend on the WRX it will out perform the Cobra. That's just my opinion. I love the power that the Cobra is pushing stock and it's potential for more but it's still a Mustang. I went to look at them today and the sticker was 35K plus "market adjustment" - $5500...not sure if it's like that everywhere but damn that sucks. Personally, I don't like the looks of the Mustang and it still has the same crappy interior, although I did like the leather and suede seats.
    I like my WRX way more then I like the Cobra. I will beat a stock one and look better doing it in a 4cylinder 4 door sedan with a lot less invested. Again, that's just my opinion...and that's what counts.
    No doubt you might be able to take the 03 Cobra. But can you at least show me what you have? Cause if your stock and the 03 is stock. I really dont think so.
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    Edited my previous post to list mods. I know your probably going to say the only way I can beat a Cobra is with the nitrous but without it, it would be a good race especially on the street from a stop. After I upgrade the turbo, it shouldn't be a problem.
    03 Cobra- do you plan to upgrade? With a little money you will kill anything on the road.
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