Any car can beat any car under the right conditions. I personally am thouroughly impressed by the build quality and stoutness of the SRT4 engine. That thing is a beast. I've said it from the start, pound for pound, the SRT4 will be able to put out way more HP and TQ than our engines will ever be able to, given no internal work is done to either engine. Looks wise, Mopar effed up by keeping it looking like a Neon. Yeah, ours look like an Impreza, but at least we have a rally heritage to look back on. The Neon is associated with cheap economy, and Dodge should have taken that into consideration when doing the design. My only other gripe is that it is FWD, and I find it awkward as a performance platfrom. Yeah, you can do a lot to compensate for it, but your still starting from behind because of weight transfer issues and traction issues due to double duty of steering/propulsion performened by 1 or 2 tires. I wouldn't mind SOA following their lead when it comes to staged packages though.