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    Im getting a 04 sti in a week or so and my friend is about to get the awd turbo talon i was wondering if his car is going to have more potential? Is he going to be tough competition always? I just want to make sure i keep ahead hes always had the faster car and now i want to be sure he cant touch me

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    stock vs stock, you will own him, but dsm's have alot of potential. He will probably pay 3k for his car, put about 1500 into it and he will own you. All he would need is a 16g and the supporting mods. He will always break down though so you win in the end
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    thanx makes me feel alot better he is getting the car for 2500 but it is a automatic so im not to worried until he gets the tranny swap...do you have any idea how much that will cost him?? if its alot im good there too because his budget isnt very big

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    well if he doesnt concentrate on the tranny swap he could just invest in making the car a 1/4 mile beast those things can get into the 11's easy with a bigger turbo and supporting mods...but the engine does break down a lot
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    Quote Originally Posted by bluwrx02
    Im getting a 04 sti in a week or so and my friend is about to get the awd turbo talon i was wondering if his car is going to have more potential? Is he going to be tough competition always? I just want to make sure i keep ahead hes always had the faster car and now i want to be sure he cant touch me
    like others have said, stock for stock you will completely destroy him.... even with basic bolt on's he doesnt stand a chance. The problem lies in the upgraded turbo. Yes, his car does have more potential then yours and he can become fast very easily. If he has a couple grand lying around he can run a 16g with supporting mods, and walk on you. Also, does he plan to swap out to a manual tranny? if he wants this thing to be a 1/4 mile beast he should leave it. Just throw in a TC and build the engine up a bit and he will pull of some really sick 60ft times and be running 11's not problem
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    with Modes he will beat you, but his car will not be reliable. A friend of mine kept breaking his tranny with a 16g/18G(not sure), but he stopped moding his car, because it kept on breaking. He has about 300 at the crank. Not sure at the wheel.
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    yes he was planning on switching to a manual tranny but ill let him know to leave it be.......is it better to keep auto over manual???? how about with a wrx better auto or manual?

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    is a TC as good as a manual??

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    ROFL! - They're not reliable!! Riiiiight.

    The DSM tranny is strong enough to hold almost 3 times the stock power. That's weak?

    Why would the engine keep breaking? The 4g63 will make 450+ whp on stock internals.

    Anybody can abuse a car enough to break it. Calling it weak or fragile is silly, especially considering that most people degrading the car weren't old enough to drive them 12+ years ago when they came out.
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    i knew the tranny was reliable i seen one that ran a 9.1 with the stock tranny

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    Quote Originally Posted by John M
    Anybody can abuse a car enough to break it. Calling it weak or fragile is silly, especially considering that most people degrading the car weren't old enough to drive them 12+ years ago when they came out.
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    mitsubishi is just about as unreliable as volkswagen........

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    Quote Originally Posted by John M
    ROFL! - They're not reliable!! Riiiiight.

    The DSM tranny is strong enough to hold almost 3 times the stock power. That's weak?

    Why would the engine keep breaking? The 4g63 will make 450+ whp on stock internals.

    Anybody can abuse a car enough to break it. Calling it weak or fragile is silly, especially considering that most people degrading the car weren't old enough to drive them 12+ years ago when they came out.
    I think most people are aware of the capabilities of the stock internals and stock tranny, but other things tend to go wrong pretty often "little" things pop up on those cars really easy.. but like you noted, they are upwards of 10+ years old.

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    is a TC as good as a manual??
    It all depends what the car will be used for. If you intend to just have it be a daily driver and just have a quick 13sec car for fun then a manual tranny is best. If you want something that is going to be in the 12's or 11's and mainly just for straight-line speed then the auto is the way to go. Auto is more consistant and can generally hold power better when you get in the high hp numbers.. not to mention it tends to be more efficient in launching. high stall tq converter is the way to go on an automatic usually. This will make the tranny more resistant to high power and allow you to launch at a higher rpm and launch more agressively... hence you get better 60ft's

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    Don't sweat it!

    From the word go you have a lead on him. If you are really concerned about this, get yourself the basic bolt ons for an STI and slap on an 18G or a 20G (beat mitsubishi with mitsubishi) and relax. Big 16s or 18g are awesome for the 2.0 while worked a 18g or a 20g for the STI will zip you into the low 12 high 11s.
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    i wouldnt sweat any $2500 dollar car..it might fall apart before race ends

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