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    wagon vs. rsx type s

    20 mph roll - I am in front of him up to ~100 and I only put 1 or so cars on him. He stayed behind me the whole time. 3rd gear roll - He is in front of me. I had to lift in 3rd and then again in 4th. It surprised me that he was able to stay so close to me the first time though. I'll assume that he had some mods although I never got to ask him (he was running the stock can on the back) I am running a mbc with the boost at 15lbs.

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    They can hang from a roll. I smoked one by about 5 cars from a dead stop but they are quick cars. WRX weak spot is from a roll but from a dead stop it is a beast if launched properly.
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    Re: wagon vs. rsx type s

    Originally posted by evilwrx
    20 mph roll - I am in front of him up to ~100 and I only put 1 or so cars on him. He stayed behind me the whole time. 3rd gear roll - He is in front of me. I had to lift in 3rd and then again in 4th. It surprised me that he was able to stay so close to me the first time though. I'll assume that he had some mods although I never got to ask him (he was running the stock can on the back) I am running a mbc with the boost at 15lbs.
    with your boost set at 15psi you should not have too many problems with a stock rsx type s....ESPECIALLY in 3rd gear! You need to take a look at your driving....

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    Hey ElectronBlueSi

    I've run a 13.59 in the quarter with this set up.
    I don't think my driving is a problem I do think that that RSX was quick

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    Re: Hey ElectronBlueSi

    Originally posted by evilwrx
    I've run a 13.59 in the quarter with this set up.
    I don't think my driving is a problem I do think that that RSX was quick
    They can certainly be quick. It is suprising that the contest was so close considering you can run a mid 13 1/4 and the rxs-s is much slower than that. You didnt happen to have left your ac on by chance? I have been caught by suprise by cars I can usually dispense of in a heartbeat because I left my AC on...this little 2L engine really gets sapped by AC or lugging around extra weight.
    Hey, you up in west palm? I am down in delray..let me know when you go to Moroso next time..maybe we can meet up for a few 1/4 runs...
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    A/C was on, you live in Delray, you know that we don't turn our A/C's off until January. Oh well, I don't know if he was modded or not, but going from a roll is not our cup of tea and definetely plays into his favor.

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    Originally posted by evilwrx
    A/C was on, you live in Delray, you know that we don't turn our A/C's off until January. Oh well, I don't know if he was modded or not, but going from a roll is not our cup of tea and definetely plays into his favor.
    Guarantee, you turn off that AC and it would have been a whole different ball game. I am so accustomed to the major power drop now with the AC on that if I sense a little acceleration contest coming up I immediately turn it off...it really makes a big difference from a stop or a roll.
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    Re: wagon vs. rsx type s

    Originally posted by evilwrx
    20 mph roll - I am in front of him up to ~100 and I only put 1 or so cars on him. He stayed behind me the whole time. 3rd gear roll - He is in front of me. I had to lift in 3rd and then again in 4th. It surprised me that he was able to stay so close to me the first time though. I'll assume that he had some mods although I never got to ask him (he was running the stock can on the back) I am running a mbc with the boost at 15lbs.
    Doesn't surprise me that he was able to "hang" w/ you, especially since you have no idea if he was modded or not. If he had I/H/E then he may have been able to get his 1/4 times down into the mid 14s (maybe even low 14s if it was cool enough, but you said you were in FLA and its never cool there ...but really, you raced in the only situation where a RSX wouldn't get "walked on" by a WRX...if you race off the line, you would probably put multiple car lengths on it...first gear is not the RSX-S's cup of tea, and w/ AWD and the great amount of torque/hp the WRX has you probably will shoot off and hold that lead through all gears.

    I've heard stories of people claiming that into triple digits vs. the WRX, the RSX-S will pull, but ****, since an RSX traps the 1/4 at ~92mph, the race would be long over (not to mention the fact that if you're ~3-4 car lengths ahead by triple digits, how long is it going to take the RSX-S to catch up if it even can pull???). I guess anyone can claim to win a race if they're willing to max out while you're not...stupid claim if you ask me.

    Just my .02 cents. I'd like to think I'm being fairly objective on this one.
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    I agree smokey, and triple digit racing needs to be left for the track

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    you probably lost 2 seconds with your a/c on.
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    2 seconds sounds a little excessive. My 13.59 was run on a perfect 50 degree night, low humidity. I think my car is probably a 14.5 or so right now with the summer heat and a/c on. If it is 2 seconds then at 15.5 I need to find a way to get an intercooler sprayer.

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    Originally posted by str
    They can hang from a roll. I smoked one by about 5 cars from a dead stop but they are quick cars. WRX weak spot is from a roll but from a dead stop it is a beast if launched properly.
    I'm not sure how the WRX is weak from a roll. Downshift people. The WRX has a nice amount of torque for a 2.0, it's VERY easy to keep the engine above 3k, just .....d o w n s h i f t
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    Originally posted by madwagon


    I'm not sure how the WRX is weak from a roll. Downshift people. The WRX has a nice amount of torque for a 2.0, it's VERY easy to keep the engine above 3k, just .....d o w n s h i f t
    It's not that the stock WRX is weak at high speeds, it just acts a lot more like a 170WHP vehicle than it does at lower speeds. AWD launches and aggressive 1st and 2nd gear ratios allow the WRX to beat on cars that it simply has no chance against at higher speeds. It has nothing to do with downshifting.
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    Actually, just like any other car out there ( there are a few exceptions) the WRX in stock form has dynoed from 165whp-195whp. I know because there's been a few that've popped up on i-club.com

    One imparticular that comes to mind is a car that was at Cobb. I think it was in the mid 190's whp COMPLETLY stock for a baseline run. Yes it was double checked and all was good with the dyno.

    If he had an MBC set to 15 psi, he should at least be pushing 190whp. A stock RSX S isn't putting that much power down. Also, if the WRX had it's AC on, it is automatically cutoff at 5k rpm and up. It will would re-engage when he went between shifts but would again turn back off at the 5k rpm mark. That would definatley subtract some HP though.
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    Originally posted by boosted 4
    Actually, just like any other car out there ( there are a few exceptions) the WRX in stock form has dynoed from 165whp-195whp. I know because there's been a few that've popped up on i-club.com

    One imparticular that comes to mind is a car that was at Cobb. I think it was in the mid 190's whp COMPLETLY stock for a baseline run. Yes it was double checked and all was good with the dyno.

    If he had an MBC set to 15 psi, he should at least be pushing 190whp. A stock RSX S isn't putting that much power down. Also, if the WRX had it's AC on, it is automatically cutoff at 5k rpm and up. It will would re-engage when he went between shifts but would again turn back off at the 5k rpm mark. That would definatley subtract some HP though.
    Um, don't know if this was in response to my post but if it is, then replace 170 with 190 and repeat. My point wasn't that the stock WRX has 170whp, I couldn't care less if one WRX had a 190hp dyno. My point was only to answer why the WRX 'seems' weak at higher speeds. It isn't that it is weak at higher speeds, just that it is exceptionally strong at low speeds. It is able to compete against cars with much better whp/weight ratios at low speeds but not at high speeds. At high speeds, it is only competetive with cars of relatively equal whp/weight. Okay?
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