Scion TC

[tan]

Originally posted by flyingace
They might be hideous to some... but the reason for their existense aparently the because of the new retro craze of box type vehicles( read: honda's box car ).

Personally I agree with you. I see no appeal in them,

the bB (xB) came before the Element in Japan

[MasiveMunkey]

Its weird because where I go to school there are three people with xB's and everyone seems to love them,

[happasaiyan]

tC = toyota celica. id put money down its getting the ax.

[UR MOTHA]

Personally, I kinda like the looks of the xB. I wouldn't drive one, but it could be a pimped out little cruiser van. haha.

[SOUTHPAW]

17 grand... hah, id get an SRT for the 2g extra

I see your reasoning here based on a performance standpoint. But you have to realize that the tC is a totally different car. Consider the differences and overall value over the srt-4;

Japanese car
Toyota quality/reliability
Toyota fit & finish

Air Conditioner
Power Windows (with one-touch up/down on driver & passenger window w/ pinch protection)
Power Door Locks with Remote Entry
Power Outside Mirrors
Panorama Moonroof with Power Slide/Tilt Front Glass Panel and Dual Manual Sunshades
Rear Window Defogger
Digital Clock
Dual Power Points
Outside Temperature Gauge
Tilt-Steering Wheel
Tachometer and Trip Meter
Sport Front Bucket Seats with Fabric Upholstery and Driver's Seat Adjustable Height and Thigh Support
Cruise Control
Cargo Area Storage
Driver's Seat One-Touch Walk-In w/ Track and Seat Angle Memory
Reclining 60/40 Split Folding Rear Seat
Rear Window Shading
Driver and Passenger Sun Visor Mirror w/ Cover
Hard Cargo Cover
Amber Instrument Panel Illumination
Exterior Features
17" Alloy Wheels
Multi-Reflector Auto-off Halogen Headlamps
Side Mirrors with Turn Indicators
Variable Intermittent Front Wipers
Chrome Exhaust Tip
Audio
Pioneer AM/FM/CD Head Unit (MP3 and Satellite controller capable)
Scion Sound Processing
6-Speakers (including 2 tweeters)
Rear Fender-Mount Antenna
Safety Features
Driver and Passenger Front Airbags*
Driver Knee Airbag*
Anti-Lock Brakes (ABS)
Driver and Passenger 3-Point Seat Belts
Anti-Lock 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
Three-Across Rear Head Restraints
3-Across 3-Point Rear Seat Belts
First Aid Kit


All for $16,500. I dare you to find a car that comes close. I agree 100% the srt-4 is THE BEST performance/dollar value on the market today, but the first 3 reasons on the list should be enough to justify the price point between the two cars. You could also look at it as the Celica vs SRT-4. Both the same price, both the same features. The Celica is a far better car, but it doesnt hold a candle to the Dodge in terms of performance.
If I was in the market now for a fast performance car to race with, I'd buy the SRT-4. If I wanted a car that was fun to drive, comfortable, sporty, reliable, crammed with standard features, that I could keep for 6 years and 180,000 miles with no problems, I would pic the tC. Apples & oranges.

[chuglobal]

I agree, SRT4 is the "best bang for buck" but the Dodge quality speaks for itself. It's comparing two totally different things.

[driverj]

If we are going to compare this car at the same price, it would have to be compared to the Neon SXT (still a 4 door). At that point which one would you choose.

[SOUTHPAW]

If we are going to compare this car at the same price, it would have to be compared to the Neon SXT (still a 4 door). At that point which one would you choose.

Excellent point, driverj.

[Aracheon]

Originally posted by FrankW
$17k and better than the Celica!!! it's gonna be a great hit!

might toss our 00 Beetle 1.8t for this car.

You better believe us Celica owners aren't too happy about it, either. But the Celi will always handle better and look better. So... there.

[FrankW]

Originally posted by Aracheon
You better believe us Celica owners aren't too happy about it, either. But the Celi will always handle better and look better. So... there.

LOL...maybe, maybe not. As of what I heard, the tC was suppose to be the replacement in other market for the Celica. Don't know if it's true or rumor tho.

[Aracheon]

The Celica certainly isn't as popular as when it first came out, especially now with the NASTY front and rear ends on the new ones. The tC is just a MUCH better value than a Celica overall... and because of that, the Celica will eventually be dropped. Toyota's been selling that car since the 70s, and it's in it's 7th generation. I don't see it lasting much longer, especially now when a new Celica is more pricey than an SRT-4.

[YBNormal07]

Nice informative thread, but where is the "vs" part???

[Aracheon]

Stock for stock...

Celica GT-S > tC



Modded...

tC > Celica GT-S




There you go.

[high on 02C]

even if most people in this forum say there ugly, and i agree, obviously not everyone feels the same. I see these suckers everywhere and sooner than later they will be all over.

Damn

[driverj]

Almost picked one up last night, but they were low balling us on the trade. Next dealer.