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    Bah. A poor platform for so much power. (the 3g). I just do not understand how they went from AWD turbo to FWD NA w/less power and more weight.
    Former car: 2002 Cobb/Scoobysport stage 2 WRX sedan
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    Originally posted by keystah
    Bah. A poor platform for so much power. (the 3g). I just do not understand how they went from AWD turbo to FWD NA w/less power and more weight.
    It is a chick car, face it. They get pissed if you start saying that on their forum.
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    Originally posted by madmanx
    Yikes
    150 in a wagon. I asked a raquetball buddy of mine who is an engineer SCCA (whatever) autocross racer. Whats up w/wrx hitting the wall at 125? He said / wish I could quote, "Resistance = hp+mass x( surface area, to the third). In essence as a car like the wrx w/large surface area + drag from boxed rear end., requires say 205hp to get to 120 but at that speed the hp to get above the critical resistance. Say 205hp at 120mph would be 250 to get to 135mph. After the wrx wagon builds up air resistance it is not only a matter of slicing through air like a more streamlined car. I know my driver side window started shaking at 140mph also. I'll try getting to 150 w/266whp, one of these nights. But you know the wrx wagon is not exactly bullet shaped, and is a lot of turbulance going on at that speed.
    I say first person to post 150mph in a wrx wagon gets a prize of some sort.
    Personally. (I think) 150 is safer on my V65. My Metzler tires are at least gauranteed to 160mph.
    How about 130 w/a sea kayak on top. Is 19' long and only 22" wide. We need a sponsor.
    I understand completely but ive been higher then 125 in a wrx wagon before while being completely stock.
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    If a sedan can go 143, I don't see how the wagon could be so much worse aerodynamically to decrease speed by 18mph. Then again I haven't personally tested this.

    Anyone find it funny that the WRX may be the only car that can max out it's speedo stock?
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    Originally posted by VOLFAN
    Had my '95 TSi up to just a shade over 145 but it took a while to get there. I pretty much got my butt handed to me by all WRX's before I got rid of it and bought a scoobie myself! The TSi was fast but no where near as much fun or as fast as the WRX.
    I'm in the same boat. I got worked over by stock WRX in my DSM quite a few times. It is fun, but now its time to move on, taking delivery of 04' wrx in a week or two.

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    So, the dsm guys get pissy?
    Quit jumping up and down, if someone enjoys cars / motor bikes overall. Calling my car slo, or me a bad driver doesn't negate the fact that the 1st and 2nd gen. dsm's were a nice car.
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    Originally posted by LemonHerb
    It is a chick car, face it. They get pissed if you start saying that on their forum.
    LoL. If you know this from experience...can you plz link us?

    Honestly though, they really are chick cars. Ive never seen a 3rd gen EVER that I liked.

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    Originally posted by CKxx
    LoL. If you know this from experience...can you plz link us?

    Honestly though, they really are chick cars. Ive never seen a 3rd gen EVER that I liked.
    Ill go look for the thred.
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    Me calling it a chick's car here

    I had to drive it for a while when my WRX was in the shop, I won a few races. They weren't to happy about this.
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    Originally posted by keystah
    If a sedan can go 143, I don't see how the wagon could be so much worse aerodynamically to decrease speed by 18mph. Then again I haven't personally tested this.

    Anyone find it funny that the WRX may be the only car that can max out it's speedo stock?
    Look at the numbers the sedan and wagon have the exact same drag cf. Wagons are a better shape since the line doesnt drop off at the c-pillar like sedans. The wagon also has less frontal mass due to no fender flares. What brings the wagons cf back down to the sedans is the roof rails breaks up the air flow. I just dont see how someones wagon could top out at 120 unless they are going agaisnt wind uphill. 4th gear will take you to about 120 and I have run out of 4th gear and still had pulling power in 5th.

    I only called the 3g eclipse slow the 1 and 2g were nice cars as long as you can keep them running.
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    Hey LemonHerb made those 3g owner pretty mad with that little post. But I don't blame ya. Nice looking yes, girls car yes.

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    i think you forgot to mention to them that the eclipse was designed by a chick

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    Originally posted by LemonHerb
    Yah somewhat. I will say it before and I will say it again. It is like driving a submarine, can't see a damned thing that isn't out the front window. And the turn radius is like a bus, god forbid you have to hit a tight parking space, get ready for the 42 point turn. Other then that I am not fond of the traction, not saying it is bad for a FWD car, but I drive a WRX (when it isn't in the shop) so I am spoiled. And it is to heavy, and a chicks car. Other then that it is fine, the tranny is stupidly easy to drive, which is a plus, the WRX is really actually quite tricky.
    HOLY HELL! That was awesome!

    Everyone go read that now. Trust me.

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    Originally posted by EvilCerealBoX
    i think you forgot to mention to them that the eclipse was designed by a chick

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    Yah they were none to happy. I particularly liked when I said he didn't have to question his own sexuality because of my opinion of his car.
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