For me it wasnt a loss I actually won but it goes like this. I was getting out of school and I see a friend of mine in like a 93ish 240sx hatch. It has a muffler on it but thats all I know of atleast. I see him and we turn on to the service road. Now Ive had my car for about 2 weeks when it happened and I knew from reading that the WRX isnt fast from a role. I realized this soon enough. I kept it in 2nd at 3k and I see him coming I hit it when hes next to me and I pull a fender on him but stay there. I dont race much and now I dont even think about doing it from a roll.