worked by a civic hatch

**DROB** · 02-15-2004 10:37 AM

Hatches are evil when they are gutted. I raced one with a b16 swap and bolt-ons. We went 1-1 seeing that his car is very light.

**axion7606** · 02-15-2004 12:08 PM

coulda been anyhting lsvtec, b20vtec, built motor, bolt on swap, hype r swap, h22, posssibilities are endless with those things.

**DTR rex** · 02-15-2004 12:57 PM

anyone have times on hatches with the k20 swaps? (rsx-s motor)

i assume it would be fairly similar to the H22 (prelude motor) but i have driven both cars the rsx-s engine just feels stronger through out the power band

**axion7606** · 02-15-2004 01:56 PM

theres only a few lurking around right now, but on honda-tech i think someone ran a high 12 with i/h/e and slicks in a eg hatch

**jungdragon** · 02-15-2004 02:36 PM

Originally posted by fastwrx135
i kept up with my friends hatch with a b18c swap and basic bolt-ons (this was when i only had the turboback and uppipe).

your car with turboback and uppipe is probably much faster than his with only reflash, and who knows what that civic really had?? haha, chalk one up for a little toy that goes

**axion7606** · 02-15-2004 02:41 PM

just to give example my eg hatch ran 14.2 at 96 mph with(gsr swap) i/h/e with 2.3 60ft, i shoulda been able to get at least a 2.2 60ft but its hard to launch fwd cars good.

**britishbikes** · 02-15-2004 05:54 PM

If you ever get whooped by a Civic, you're not alone. My 500 Triumph in the avatar got humiliated by one just today. But then everything seems to beat that bike, but it was really bad. Not just a few lengths like I would have expected for a hotrod 4cyl: by the time I was to 80, he was at least going 100. But this was on one of just a few secret twisty roads in Florida. There was an uphill right hander followed immediately by a tricky left that has a fast (one that could unweight your tires) drop, with a manhole right in the natural line for both cars and bikes. This was followed by a downhill right, then a gear tighter left and a short shoot to a flat right, followed by a 1st gear left and then a short modified straight and then a stop sign. The Civic driver got his butt handed right back to him in the curves. His front tires just pushed and the whole car swayed a lot every time he tried to make it change directions. It was nothing like the modified WRX that I had to work the 250 Ninja to catch at Deals Gap. By the end of the second turn his massive 12 semi truck length lead was down to just a few carlengths. The next sweeper finished him off; he tried to cheat by using the oncoming lane for a better line but the 37 year old Triumph (cable operated drum brakes and all) was just sticking way better. I think a WRX could have finished him off faster, even if you took the turbo and tossed it into the woods. The motor on that car was pretty impressive, though. Easily a match for a WRX.

**1wrx4u2c** · 02-15-2004 06:41 PM

The best race I ever had was something similar to that. It was on a 10 mile, 2-lane, curvy road. These two ninja bikes came up behind me, I noticed them from a distance and began driving faster and once they caught up I put the pedal to the metal. I kept them behind me for about 8 miles of the ten until I slowed for a bicyclist and they drove around me. But this was the best time I ever had in my car. I wish I could do it again.

I love my WReX

**fastwrx135** · 02-15-2004 11:08 PM

Originally posted by jungdragon
your car with turboback and uppipe is probably much faster than his with only reflash, and who knows what that civic really had?? haha, chalk one up for a little toy that goes

i wouldn't be too sure about that. Like i said, i have an automatic wrx and racing from a roll isn't my cars strongest point. I still managed to KEEP UP, not beat him. A manual WRX with a Stg 1 reflash should be able to keep up with a hatch with a b18 swap unless the guy had some modified internals. With just the swap and basic bolt-ons, a b18 hatch will run low to mid 14s with an average driver. So i understand he probably won't beat the hatch but he said he lost by some 5 or so car lengths which is possible but not a likely scenario. just my $.02

**TurnWRX** · 02-15-2004 11:24 PM

sorry for being a honda n00b, but what cars do b16 and b18 engines come from? I'm guessing from one of the SI models?

**axion7606** · 02-16-2004 12:31 AM

h22-accord
b18b- ls integra
b18c1-gsr
b18c5-type r
b16a-si
k20- newer honda motors (rsx)

**smokey** · 02-16-2004 12:44 PM

Originally posted by DTR maxima
anyone have times on hatches with the k20 swaps? (rsx-s motor)

i assume it would be fairly similar to the H22 (prelude motor) but i have driven both cars the rsx-s engine just feels stronger through out the power band

Hasport already took a K20A and slapped it into a EP3 and made over 700hp - of course they went F/I.

K20A2 right now - best times we've seen F/I has been an 11.9 at an insane trap speed (for RSX's that is, not relatively speaking) with DR's.

The hatches are going to utilize the power best - EP3's that is, because they are slightly lighter and less expensive to boot -giving the owner more $ to spend on the engine