AWW Vs. T-Rex (OWN3D)

[JoeyD02]

A couple of my team mates told me this guy that has a VW Golf thats stock beat me one day. They new it was BS. I have only raced a VW Golf with APS Stage 3. Now he beat me. I won't lie about that one. The guy talkin BS has a white Golf that I never raced before so I dont know what he is saying. If I see him I will show him up.

[ebr0t]

Car-Stats.com Report for 2001 Volkswagen Jetta GLS 1.8T
Obtained from C&D November, 2001
0-60: 7.2 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 15.7
1/4 Speed: 89


once again, paper racing here.. but its all i have to go on..... but if its an automatic.... sorry no....

[WRXless]

Originally posted by ebr0t
Car-Stats.com Report for 2001 Volkswagen Jetta GLS 1.8T
Obtained from C&D November, 2001
0-60: 7.2 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 15.7
1/4 Speed: 89


once again, paper racing here.. but its all i have to go on..... but if its an automatic.... sorry no....

Yeah, the C&D drivers weren't doing too well that day. There's a lot of guys who have run high 14's, stock.

Blah.... bench racing.

[Ike]

Yes, but stock for VW and Audi guys seems to mean Chip+DV

[jigga]

Originally posted by Ike
Yes, but stock for VW and Audi guys seems to mean Chip+DV

Even with a chip installed, i didn't think the 1.8T's were all that quick. I can see though that they might give a stock WRX trouble from a roll on race at high speeds. One of the doctors in town here has a modded 5speed Jetta 1.8 T (same collour are WRXless, but lowered and with 18 inch VW BBS forged rims and spacers in the back to increase the track slightly) with the Upsolute chip, and allowed me to drive it in exchange for a drive in my modded wrx....

I loved the smoothness and civility of his car, and the turbo whine (that sound is intoxicating!) of the 1.8t, even with the suspension work and 18 inch VW BBS rims he had. A very smooth ride indeed.

Mine on the other hand was very harsh compared to his car, although even the stock turbo'd wrx will force you back in your seat harder than the 1.8T can. I think this was probably an issue with gearing. They give up some snap in town for more grunt on the highway. But I must say that the 1.8T's are VERY nice rides indeed.

[Imprezaboy]

If you read the guy's post more clearly, he said he loves how both turbo spool against each other? What is he talking about? Does he drive a Audi TT roadster or does he drive a VW GTi 1.8T?

The 1.8T has one tiny little turbo that kicks in at 2500 rpm and max out at just a little over 4000 rpm (I've driven a 2002 VW GTi 1.8T 5 speed hard once so I know). What is he talking about 2 turbos?!? Does he mean the Audi TT roadster's sequential Bi-Turbo? I call this total BS since he doesn't even know what he is talking about. Maybe the WRX isn't even running it hard since it was him that thought they were going to race, the WRX didn't sound like he was trying. Please if someone is going too trash talk, at least get your facts, story right or somewhat believable, but his lack of knowledge most certainly disscredited himself in my eyes.

I don't ever race people but I want to race him to teach him some respect. VW = heavy, FWD understeering cow.

[Slayer]

Originally posted by jigga
Even with a chip installed, i didn't think the 1.8T's were all that quick. I can see though that they might give a stock WRX trouble from a roll on race at high speeds. One of the doctors in town here has a modded 5speed Jetta 1.8 T (same collour are WRXless, but lowered and with 18 inch VW BBS forged rims and spacers in the back to increase the track slightly) with the Upsolute chip, and allowed me to drive it in exchange for a drive in my modded wrx....

I loved the smoothness and civility of his car, and the turbo whine (that sound is intoxicating!) of the 1.8t, even with the suspension work and 18 inch VW BBS rims he had. A very smooth ride indeed.

Mine on the other hand was very harsh compared to his car, although even the stock turbo'd wrx will force you back in your seat harder than the 1.8T can. I think this was probably an issue with gearing. They give up some snap in town for more grunt on the highway. But I must say that the 1.8T's are VERY nice rides indeed.

I agree. The VW's feel a lot more "grown up" than most cars out there. The engines are beautiful. They rev so smoothly compared to most other engines on the market. Torque comes in very soon and the curves are very smooth. The fit and finish is also very nice and the ride is excellent. My friend from work has a GTI with 17" wheels on stock suspension and the handling is insane.
The biggest problem these cars have is the launch, but they do pull hard from a roll, maybe not WRX hard but they are no slouch!

[TurboWRX]

that guy's from morgantown.....wasn't me though

[ebr0t]

in response to him thinking a 1.8t will take a rex....

[WRXless]

Originally posted by Imprezaboy
If you read the guy's post more clearly, he said he loves how both turbo spool against each other? What is he talking about? Does he drive a Audi TT roadster or does he drive a VW GTi 1.8T?

I think he was talking about the two different cars spooling up with eachother.

Originally posted by Imprezaboy
The 1.8T has one tiny little turbo that kicks in at 2500 rpm and max out at just a little over 4000 rpm (I've driven a 2002 VW GTi 1.8T 5 speed hard once so I know).

Wow... you sure can tell a lot about a car after a drive. Why is it then that the 1.8T makes peak power at ~5500 RPM? And why is it that its torque curve is almost flat from ~1950 RPM to ~5500 RPM? Please, educate me.

Originally posted by Imprezaboy
I don't ever race people but I want to race him to teach him some respect. VW = heavy, FWD understeering cow.

Heavy? Wow, it tips the scales at about 3000 lbs. How much does your car weigh? FWD has its place, and understeering can be dealt with.

Originally posted by Imprezaboy
Please if someone is going too trash talk, at least get your facts, story right or somewhat believable, but his lack of knowledge most certainly disscredited himself in my eyes.

Open mouth. Insert foot.

[Imprezaboy]

WRXless, I take what I said back, I haven't done enough research on the 1.8T to accurately assess the performance of the VW, that was just my first drive impression; so I didn't know of all the stats you've just thrown out. The WRX is 3085 lbs curb weight (5 spd) and approx. 3200 lbs (auto), relatively speaking, the GTi is heavy compare to the WRX that's all I am saying. Please don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to disrespect anyone, I am quite fond of the VW GTi 16-valve Mark II, wish I had one as a project car. I just found the guy's story a little hard to believe, you may or may not agree, but each to their own. As to your last comment, again I apologize for not having my facts totally straight, though I wasn't completely off.

[WRXless]

Originally posted by Imprezaboy
WRXless, I take what I said back, I haven't done enough research on the 1.8T to accurately assess the performance of the VW, that was just my first drive impression; so I didn't know of all the stats you've just thrown out. The WRX is 3085 lbs curb weight (5 spd) and approx. 3200 lbs (auto), relatively speaking, the GTi is heavy compare to the WRX that's all I am saying. Please don't get me wrong, I wasn't trying to disrespect anyone, I am quite fond of the VW GTi 16-valve Mark II, wish I had one as a project car. I just found the guy's story a little hard to believe, you may or may not agree, but each to their own. As to your last comment, again I apologize for not having my facts totally straight, though I wasn't completely off.

No worries. It just got my ire up as there seemed to be an unnecessary bash against a really good car. Sorry if I got a bit ignorant. I'm not trying to say that the GTi is a better car than the WRX, and I"m not saying that it's worse. They're just different, each with their pros and cons.

Peace