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    newbie beat a v6 mazda6 on a bad run

    I just got my 2002 WRX two weeks ago... Before my WRX I was driving a 1993 mazda MX-3 all through college. Now finally I have an awsome car! And a large difference in horse power!

    Any ways, I've been driveing around looking every where for a race... And for the past two weeks I pull up next to nothing but mini vans... I was getting so frusterated!!! A new car and not a single chance to play it against another car!!!

    Last night after a night at the Rib Fest in Minneapolis, Minnesota. I was driving through Minnetonka with a couple friends and stoped in a service station for a bathroom break. After I came out I noticed that a mazda6 was sitting in the corner of the gas station with only their parking lights on. As I driving towards the exit to get back on the street I swung right over past the mazda6 and reved up the engine. I'm still stock - but I'm working on that. Any ways, he took the challange right away. He quickly poped around and we met on the street at a light.

    When we both pulled up to the light it was about to turn green and neither of us got a chance to completely stop. My launch was TERRIBLE!!! (Give me a break, it was my FIRST race in my new car!) I launched at about only 3500 rpms and he had me right away on that by a couple yards. I red lined it and granny shifted into second. After red lineing again in second I was ahead, but only by a several feet. Then again after my horrible launch I completely missed third gear and grinded the clutch. Which brough my rpms all the way back down to near 4500. JESSE this was a horrible race on my part... Any ways the road was to narrow to two lanes up ahead and I was already almost a car length ahead still in third so I beat him to the narrow and we both slowed down. I finally turned off to turn around and he kept going.

    That was my crappy race... My first one... I'm dissapointed that I sucked it up so bad... But I'm still way excited that I still won! It's great to be a WRX driver! Hopefully next time I will have the chance to polish up on the mistakes I made this time.

    Also, any advice on the best method of shifing in our WRXs would be helpful. What have you guys found to be most effective? How do you double clutch?

    Thanks everyone for making a web site like this work. Its great to know other WRX fans!

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    Also, any advice on the best method of shifing in our WRXs would be helpful. What have you guys found to be most effective? How do you double clutch?
    "Shift as though the knob is a raw egg"- a quote or the jist of a quote form Sterling Moss.

    Treat your tranny like you would a fine woman because you want it to last. Their are lots of people on various WRX boards with tranny problems but this isn't the place to get into that discussion just as long as you realise that launching your WRX is hard on the clutch and tranny.

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    Do you have the STI short throw shifter option? If not, consider any short throw shifter as one of your first mods. This might help out with the mis-shifting department.

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    For 2nd to 3rd shifting, have your palm facing the stick with the stick lodged in between your index and middle finger. Just push it and you should feel it slide into the center position. Just push it up into 3rd.

    I actually feel 2nd-3rd shifting is easier than 3rd-4th Sometimes the shifter resists me when going into 4th

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    same, 2nd to 3rd feels better for me than 3rd to 4th.

    you should just row through all the gears for a while before racing anyone else. get comfortable with the gear box. it sounds like this is your first manual, most modern cars dont need double clutching (double clutching is for old cars without synchros, or those fat commercial big rigs). just rev match on downshifts. practice a lot cause; you might be able to beat some cars, just dont look like an idiot doing it

    by the way, did you mean that you grinded 3rd gear? if you heard/felt the metallic grinding, it was the gear, not the clutch. needless to say, this is VERY bad for the gear if you grinded it at redline. if you meant that you burned the clutch, that's not so bad.

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    mazda6s are pretty gay... my mom has one.

    S L O W

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    Uh...Nice Kill? I stepped on a ant yesterday, make me feel powerful.
    Baha,haah,ha,ha!!

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    still a newbie but learning

    Originally posted by TurnWRX
    For 2nd to 3rd shifting, have your palm facing the stick with the stick lodged in between your index and middle finger. Just push it and you should feel it slide into the center position. Just push it up into 3rd.

    I actually feel 2nd-3rd shifting is easier than 3rd-4th Sometimes the shifter resists me when going into 4th
    When you mention this you are staying without the use of the clutch, right? I've shifted in this manner on my old car, but not at very high rpms because I don't know if it can be done without harming the car.

    I want to get better launches but I don't want to hurt my transmission. What is a good rpm to get going at?

    I do plan on adding a short throw shifter as my first mod. I also plan on new wheels and tires soon. After that turbo back peice by peice.

    I'm still a newbie to this car, and not used to the drive completely.

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    always use a clutch to shift. don't powershift on this car, it's very bad on the transmission.

    when launching, rev to about 4000 and slip the clutch. don't drop the clutch (again, very bad for awd). keep the rpms above 3500rpms for a hard take off.

    or just take off like you're driving normally, then when you feel the clutch engaged fully, floor it. it is much faster than launching at 4000, releasing the clutch too fast and bogging down to 1000rpms or something.

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    Originally posted by XtmX
    Uh...Nice Kill? I stepped on a ant yesterday, make me feel powerful.
    Baha,haah,ha,ha!!


    That's too funny. I couldn't stop laughing with this one.
    Nice kill though for a first experience.
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    Re: still a newbie but learning

    Originally posted by c0dy
    When you mention this you are staying without the use of the clutch, right? I've shifted in this manner on my old car, but not at very high rpms because I don't know if it can be done without harming the car.

    I want to get better launches but I don't want to hurt my transmission. What is a good rpm to get going at?
    No, you depress clutch fully. It's easy to slide it into 3rd using that method, especially at normal acceleration, normal shifting (around 3k rpms).

    Just remember that when sliding the stick out of a gear, it will always return to the middle, or neutral position. So when shifting from 2nd to 3rd, no matter how you grip it, it'll return to the middle as long as you don't try to force it into 3rd, potentially missing the gear or grinding it. Just move it out of 2nd, let the stick move to the middle, and then push the stick up into 3rd. You'll eventually get better and faster at it with more practice.

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    Originally posted by streko
    same, 2nd to 3rd feels better for me than 3rd to 4th.
    It happens to me because I put only enough pressure on the stick to move it into the next gear, so 4th gear seems to resist more often. If I try and shift directly from 3rd to 4th without leaving it in neutral for just a half second, it'll resist me. If I slide it out of 3rd, leave it in neutral for half second, and then push down on 4th, it slides in easily.

    If I'm in 3rd and I use more pressure to push the stick in directly to 4th, it goes in easily I'm just afraid that if I do this, I'll miss the shift and hit 2nd instead

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    Damn dude.. you taunted a Mazda 6? Yeah it was your "first" but it shouldn't even be a real contest. Do yourself a favor and *learn* how to drive your car properly first before trying to bust out how cool you are against other cars. A Mazda 6 would be toast compared to a WRX with a good driver, it's not even a challenge. But a WRX can also lose out to a Ford Escort if you don't drive properly (eg lag it in 2nd at 1500 rpm, while the Escort is pulling around you...), it's just not a point and shoot. I can't blame you for wanting to experience the power of the WRX, but it just seems like you shouldn't rush it yet. You have much to learn. I can't even imagine the point of taunting a Mazda 6. With great power comes repsonsibility, and all that. Well good job anyhow -- you still beat him even with inexperience

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    Don't worry he has a Mzdaspeed protege and rx-8 on his sights next.


    Mazda's SUCK period.

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    Originally posted by smolten
    Don't worry he has a Mzdaspeed protege and rx-8 on his sights next.


    Mazda's SUCK period.

    Aren't we forgetting this little bug called an RX7?

    What about 2500 lb w/ driver miatas with 5.0 V8's taking in a 150 shot of nitrous with nothing but a few degrees retard in timing in 'em? Ain't a hard swap at all.


    But I actually have a relevent question. I just push diagonally from 2nd to 3rd, and sometimes when I depress the clutch really lightly, I hear this click/clunk sound...wtf is that?
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