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This is a discussion on Older Toyota vs Valentine 1 within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; As I pulled up to the stop light I noticed this older toyota corolla or such (i.e. not a fast ...

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    Older Toyota vs Valentine 1

    As I pulled up to the stop light I noticed this older toyota corolla or such (i.e. not a fast car) in the left lane, I am in the center. The light turns green and I take off in a spirited manner up to about 5-7 over the limit which is 40mph. All of the sudden the Toyota comes flying by and slows down so that I pass him and he stomps it and passes me again. He wants me to race him but I'm not interested because there was no need. We get to another light that was red but this time he was in front of me in the middle lane. The light turns green and he takes off, if you can call it that and immediately moves to the left lane so I goose it in second and run up to about 55 or so and then slow back down to 45. There is no traffic in front of us and it is a 6 lane road divided by a short median (3" curbs with rock filler). He starts doing his pass me and slow down routine again. Well when he does this for the 4th time I let him pass me so he is about 1 car ahead, this is where I decide to take the bait so I stomp it in second at about 40-45mph. When he's about 3 cars behind my Valentine 1 goes bonkers so I stand on the brakes and bring it down to 40-45 from just about redline in second. He flies by me and then I see the source of my Valentines warning coming the other direction. The cop instantly slows down and climbs his car over the median, blasts past me and follows the toyota into a grocery store parking lot.

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    hahaha, i need to get me one of those gizmo
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    How much of a warning did the Valentine give? In other words, how far would you say the cop was from you when it picked up his radar? I'm considering getting a V1, but for the price I want to make damn sure its worth the investment.

    Nice kill, well, sort of. Too bad for the other guy. Examples like this are precisely why I rarely race until I have a radar detector.

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    It was probably 5-7 seconds from warning time until I saw the cop. That doesn't sound like much time but what I think happened was he either just turned on his radar or just turned on to the road I was on. My detector went from nothing to full alert instantly and stayed at full alert

    About 5 minutes before this happened, a patrol car from the same jurisdiction on the same roadway gave me close to a full mile warning before I saw him on the oppisite side of the road heading towards me. I estimate a mile because my detector was alerting for about a minute slowly showing a stronger signal coming from the front, I was driving about 40 - 45 mph and we were closing the gap between us.

    I love my Valentine it was worth every penny, get the remote display when you buy one. I mounted my remote on the lip in front of the speedometer so I can glance and see my speed and the direction arrows at the same time.

    edit for spelling and clarity.
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    A Valentine 1 is a really valuable tool. I decided that it's going to be my first mod for any car I buy. The money it'll save you in the long run is more than worth its price.

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    I had a similar experience this morning - pulled onto a pretty empty freeway at 5am and was accelerating briskly! I overtook a a F150 who decided he wanted to run next to me and started chasing me in the next lane. My Bel 985 suddenly chirps at me... I immediately slow down, the truck doesn't and a CHP bike comes flying past and pulls the truck over. I found it difficult to suppress my giggles!

    So in summary, are they worth it... yes if you know how to use them! Make sure to buy a top of the line one though. I don't believe you will far wrong with a Bel 985, an Escort 8500 or a Valentine 1, although everyone will argue the merits of each of those.

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    Do these detect the radar or lasers in front of the car or both in front and behind?
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    Both and both!!!

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    detectors

    i have a passport 8500 and that thing has saved my ass countless times.......one thing to mention though for all these detectors is that with laser no matter how much you've spent on your detector you can still very easily get caught. I work down in Westchester NY and travel up I-684 every day. The NY troopers on that road sometimes will sit and use laser at a few spots. The problem is that since the laser has such a narrow beam and goes out at the speed of light, it is very hard to detect until you are screwed. The guys typically aim at your license plate and unless the beam gets defused and reflected up toward the detector sensing area you will NEVER even know that they have clocked you until the lights are on behind you. In the rare event that they aim higher and it does go off it takes something like 3 readings in <1 sec or something (don't quote me if I'm off by some) but you have ZERO time to slam the brakes and slow it down. The good thing is that alot of places don't have the laser and are stuck with radar, which the detectors sniff out miles out.
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    ^^^^^^
    Very true - you have to understand the limitations. They will not save you every time.

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    Im getting mine today I have an Escort Passport right now
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    V1 is the best on the market. If it's not in my car it's on my bike. It will tell you if the radar source is infront, behind or from the side. And can track multiple radar sources. Get one before you get a speeding ticket.

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    My 8500 has saved me more than a few times. I am not usually a blatant speeder, you just never know what the "real" speedlimit is... The sign says 55, but does that mean 60 or 65 is fine? Or will they nail you for 59? I think ya'll know what I mean...

    About that damn LASER... not as common as radar around here, but when the detector goes off the tone can give you a heart attack! And as has already been observed, if blatantly speeding and you get hit by LASER, it is basically just a friendly warning that you will be pulled over shortly (maybe time to ditch the 1/5 of bourbon, chuck your joint out the window, and let the under-age girl out... )

    I do really like the directional feature of the Valentine, I can see that being really handy, but have been very happy with the 8500. Should be everyones first mod.

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    V1 has saved me tons of money compared to my old detector. V1 is a radar locator, not just a detector. I call it my "cop detector".
    I used to get way more than $400 worth of tickets + insurance hikes each year, so I figured I'd pay for the best. I'm sure the Escorts are good too though. Get the best unit you can afford (whatever your budget is) if you speed a lot.
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    [QUOTE]Originally posted by B-Rex
    And as has already been observed, if blatantly speeding and you get hit by LASER, it is basically just a friendly warning that you will be pulled over shortly (maybe time to ditch the 1/5 of bourbon, chuck your joint out the window, and let the under-age girl out... )


    cracking up at that post dude........but its true, I have the 8500 too and when that laser warning goes off its like a flatliner in the emergency room.....and you're right if you're speeding and its a cop that loud warning is just to prepare you to get your registration out and ready.
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