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    Quote Originally Posted by momolicious View Post
    ^ uh, what are these problems you speak of
    water pump failures are common (!), and depending on owner maintenance, much of the cooling system goes bye bye fairly often.

    blown shocks, steering components, engine hardware, ECU, all very problematic even before 100K.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelBoy View Post
    water pump failures are common (!), and depending on owner maintenance, much of the cooling system goes bye bye fairly often.

    blown shocks, steering components, engine hardware, ECU, all very problematic even before 100K.

    typical German car: when it works, it's perfect.
    To name a few. But you ever hear of the "oil pump nut"? supposedly this has happened to a good amount of guys so it's not just one or 2. If you're spinning out (even what commonly happens at track's off the line) sometimes the car will just die and there's this little nut on the oil pump that will spin itself off... that' happens, all your oil drains out the engine and few miles down the road, boom. Lot's of guys have it welded on there... but why the crap is it there in the first place is what i wanna know. The guys that have had it welded have on average paid 1000-1200 in labor charges... you do the math. For an experienced BMW tech, that's like 10-12 hrs.
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    haha, and don't forget the $800 heater control (full digital ACC) that has gone out on my friend twice in 2.5 years.

    Oh, and the abs pump... eh. The list is endless dude. Those cars weren't meant to be a daily driver. Once they top 100k, they fall apart so don't ever buy one that's close to that. And remember, very few M3's have not been beaten on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powder View Post
    Well, i have 2 friends (yes, only 2 ), one w/ an E36 M3 and one w/ an E46 M3. I've driven both... i'd take my friend's dad's Z06 over both w/o question. I'd also take an STI over both. The creature comforts are cool and all but they just don't do it for me. They're expensive to fix, you can't mod them cheaply and get any hp out of them period short of FI ($12k+)... despite that, they're only ok to drive (like i said, i'd take the Z06 over it cuz i've driven that too) and my friend swears his car was teh best3st handling car of '97 OVER ALL. Ya, you said that about your '98 Prelude too...

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    Dude, I actually wholely agree with you on this! I would take a Z06 any day over a M3,
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    my friend has a 5.0 too, they are slow, the only way to decently make them fast is to drop a v8 explorer engine in them.

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    Also heard stories of people changing oil in their Beemers and they attempt to unscrew the Oil pan bolt and it strips horribly or have broken off, leaving it to where it has to be pressed out or bored out. I only had a 96 318i and it was a fun little car, but heavy. My friend blew the clutch and flywheel and that was expensive...

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    I'm disheartened to hear these horror stories about the Bimmers with mileage on them. If for some reason in the future I wanted the room that a true 4-seater gives, but wanted a nice German performance vehicle, I was thinking seriously about an E46 M3 or a new-generation 335.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    I'm disheartened to hear these horror stories about the Bimmers with mileage on them. If for some reason in the future I wanted the room that a true 4-seater gives, but wanted a nice German performance vehicle, I was thinking seriously about an E46 M3 or a new-generation 335.
    You can still buy a new one and not keep it past 100k. They're nice cars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    I'm disheartened to hear these horror stories about the Bimmers with mileage on them. If for some reason in the future I wanted the room that a true 4-seater gives, but wanted a nice German performance vehicle, I was thinking seriously about an E46 M3 or a new-generation 335.
    i literally feel your pain. i've done every possible kind of search on which BMW i can buy that will give me Japanese levels of reliability and i found zero, repeat ZERO prospects.

    my sample size was hardly narrow:

    E39 M5
    E39 540i
    E36 3-series with any engine/tranny combo
    E46 3-series with any engine/tranny combo
    ANY 7 SERIES AT ALL: even if it only came in purple, i still considered it.

    coupe, convertible, sport package, base suspension, 5-speed, 6-speed, automatic, pre-OBD II, iDrive, it just didn't make a difference: you wanna keep a Bimmer running, either go to medical school, or rob a bank. i've given up.

    that's not even the bad news. a few years ago, BMW found out that a major complaint from its consumer loyale was maintenance costs. surprise!

    so a great company like BMW obviously improved the quality. oh wait, no they didn't. they took out the dipstick, and had a computer chip tell you when to come in for service.

    the result? Ray, if you get a used bimmer of any kind in the future, and it was dealer serviced, you're buying a car that had 10,000 mile intervals between oil changes(since BMW offers free service for the first few years), *and since the tranny fluid is a "lifetime" fluid, the dealer has been known deny service on transmission flushes!*

    that was BMW's answer to saving people a buck. good luck finding a used one in the future that was serviced correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by powder View Post
    You can still buy a new one and not keep it past 100k. They're nice cars.
    I doubt I'll ever be able to justify (to myself) spending today's equivalent of > $40,000 for a car. I'll be driving down the road, constantly thinking of better things I could have done with the money.

    Quote Originally Posted by AngelBoy View Post
    i literally feel your pain. i've done every possible kind of search on which BMW i can buy that will give me Japanese levels of reliability and i found zero, repeat ZERO prospects.

    If you guys start talking about Porsche next, I'm going to plug my ears with my fingers and start yelling "LALALALALALAI CAN'T HEAR YOULALALALALLA!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post

    If you guys start talking about Porsche next, I'm going to plug my ears with my fingers and start yelling "LALALALALALAI CAN'T HEAR YOULALALALALLA!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    If you guys start talking about Porsche next, I'm going to plug my ears with my fingers and start yelling "LALALALALALAI CAN'T HEAR YOULALALALALLA!"
    don't blame you; i love Porsche, although i'm a Cayman S > 911 type of guy. both great cars, but one loves physics, and the other fights it to the end.

    although there's some more bad news for you, Ray: i think the 998 911 will be bored out to 4.0L, and after that, nothing bigger will fit back there. how they're going to add more power without increasing displacement is not the problem; the problem is: can they do it without changing the 911's character?
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    I love the Cayman and the 911. Need to drive a Cayman to get a feel for it, and to compare to my 911 experience.

    If they bore to 4 liters, I'm sure it'll be putting out in the neighborhood of 400hp. Hopefully that'll be enough to get me by.
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    haha good point.
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