Mazdaspeed 6 vs 06 WRX

[SOUTHPAW]

Just to clarify things for those who don't understand international business and how things work...

Ford owned 25% of the Mazda Motor Corp. since the 1970s. 10 years ago, Ford acquired another 8.4%, making a total of 33.4%. Since Mazda isn't a US Corporation, it does not trade on the NYSE; it trades on the Tokyo Stock Exchange. The effect of Ford's acquisition of Mazda shares allowed Ford the ability to elect a couple of directors they wanted in place on Mazda's board of directors. The Mazda Corporation still operates as it did prior to 1996, the only difference is now Mazda and Ford have a joint venture, and as such they share designs and other manufacturing elements. Almost all of Mazda's top executives are appointed there by Ford. In fact, since Ford took their controlling interest, it was led by numerous Ford executives until 2003 when Ford appointed Imaki as President; the first Japanese head of Mazda in almost 10 years. So to all the fanboys that whack it to the amazing RX7 (FD fo' life!), IT'S A "FORD".

Basically Mazda needed a bridge to come over to the states and establish itself, so they used Ford as that bridge ...and in turn they share dirty little secrets with each other. There's no harm in that... only benefit.

The Ford/Mazda 2.3L engine won awards as one of the BEST engines in production. Does the fact that Ford plays a small part in that change anything?

I hope the little history lesson was refreshing.

[vypr2002]

So refreshing in fact, I need a drink.
I like this thread it's fun

[SOUTHPAW]

I like this thread it's fun

And educational!

[rr1911]

dosent ford also own some of range rover,jaguar, volvo and some other stuff too ?

[SOUTHPAW]

dosent ford also own some of range rover,jaguar, volvo and some other stuff too ?

www.ford.com

Ford, Lincon, Mercury, Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover, Aston Martin.

[rr1911]

www.ford.com

Ford, Lincon, Mercury, Mazda, Volvo, Jaguar, Land Rover, Aston Martin.

noooooooooo... they got aston martin too

[cavallino333]

Is it just me or does it seem like alot of threads lately turn into bashing american cars and having a circle jerk around japanese cars?

[BrianH]

Is it just me or does it seem like alot of threads lately turn into bashing american cars and having a circle jerk around japanese cars?

That's because this site has a large handfull of dumbasses that are nothing more than clueless jdm fanboys and the last domestic car they were in was the one their parents drove right before they bought them a new subaru for being on the honor roll or graduating highschool.

OMG JDM

Quick say GTR while I touch myself.

LOUDER AND FASTAR.

[rr1911]

gtr

[cavallino333]

That's because this site has a large handfull of dumbasses that are nothing more than clueless jdm fanboys and the last domestic car they were in was the one their parents drove right before they bought them a new subaru for being on the honor roll or graduating highschool.

OMG JDM

Quick say GTR while I touch myself.

LOUDER AND FASTAR.

gtr

[tayhadar1]

I have driven a stock 06 wrx and it does not produce power under normal driving. The MS6 does. As soon as you hit the gas, the MS6 spools and is gone. The wrx takes a long time and for normal driving it does not eccelerate fast. Also on the Highway, the MS6 will walk it for sure. I get boost in 5th gear and go form 80-105ish noticably fast.

One thing you have to remember is stock wrx's that are not broken in yet don't make power at all. Well at least mine didn't but when all is broken in they run much harder. And turbo lag I really don't notice any in my car, turbo kicks in fast since it is so small. I like MS6's for sure but I would really like to see you walk my stock wrx on the freeway.

[DTR rex]

yep, you just have to sacrifice something. Look forward to the STi not producing any torque or power in 08.

I don't know about that... It is not like Toyota doesn't know how to make torque.

The IS350 has very potent lowend torque, as does the larger V8 LS varients. Not to mention the new camry make 250tq and peaks at 4,700rpm... which is not too bad. Plus, I doubt Toyota will play a large enough roll in Subaru's decisions to negatively persuade the torque numbers of the STi.

[rr1911]

Is it just me or does it seem like alot of threads lately turn into bashing american cars and having a circle jerk around japanese cars?

hey i have nothing againts american cars.... but to be honest the only american cars i would ever get would be an older muscel car, c6,viper,and yea thats about it... wait cant forget a camaro and im looking for one now. anyone have one for sale ?

[rr1911]

I don't know about that... It is not like Toyota doesn't know how to make torque.

The IS350 has very potent lowend torque, as does the larger V8 LS varients. Not to mention the new camry make 250tq and peaks at 4,700rpm... which is not too bad. Plus, I doubt Toyota will play a large enough roll in Subaru's decisions to negatively persuade the torque numbers of the STi.

please explain the whole toyota, subaru relationship to me please

[06grayrex]

Toyota now owns a decent amount of stock of Subaru.