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This is a discussion on Mazdaspeed 6 vs 06 WRX within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by AngelBoy before you laugh, keep in mind that Toyota's hybrid cars are extremely fast. The Highlander, Camry, ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AngelBoy View Post
    before you laugh, keep in mind that Toyota's hybrid cars are extremely fast. The Highlander, Camry, GS450 hybrids all have sub-6 second 0-60.
    How about I keep in mind you are wrong?..."With a 0-60 time of 8.6 seconds, you won't win any drag races in the Camry Hybrid, but no one will make fun of you as you try to merge onto the freeway either." http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...ticleId=115799

    The Highlander and Camry are slow.

    And the GS hybrid with no options (which is a joke), starts at 55k...so yeah, awesome, sub-6 second 0-60 from 55k+, what a deal...
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    Quote Originally Posted by speedDman1 View Post
    With a 0-60 time of 8.6 seconds, you won't win any drag races in the Camry Hybrid, but no one will make fun of you as you try to merge onto the freeway either."
    since the Highlander and Camry are the same platform, i thought they had the same hybrid powertrain. guess not.

    the Highlander is not slow; i've seen anywhere from 5.9-6.5s 0-60 times.

    Quote Originally Posted by speedDman1 View Post
    And the GS hybrid with no options (which is a joke), starts at 55k...so yeah, awesome, sub-6 second 0-60 from 55k+, what a deal...
    same can be said for all its competitors in that price range. not sure what you're arguing here.
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    woud I be killed if i'd resurrect this thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrQQ View Post
    woud I be killed if i'd resurrect this thread?
    You just did.

    LOL it's interesting that you chose a "bump" of a very old thread as your first post, then failed to mention any reason for the bump. Either way, welcome, and thanks for the laugh
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    lol, kidding.

    I wanted to post some info/ask some questions bout all this "vs MS6", but am not sure how friendly the crowd is over here

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrQQ View Post
    lol, kidding.

    I wanted to post some info/ask some questions bout all this "vs MS6", but am not sure how friendly the crowd is over here
    Well, you ressurected it, may as well do what you came hear to do.
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    Anyway, just wanted to add some arguments to the MS6 side:

    MS6 does not use Haldex.

    As written here: AWD system... 50/50 ? Any real links?

    the AWD is active 100% of the time, with as much as 100% of torque going to rear wheels (rare circumstances, I agree!)

    Anyway, that wasn't the reason I wanted to post here.

    What I wanted to ask was, you guys keep saying Subaru has more "effective and efficient" awd system. While I can agree with "more effective" part, what's more efficient about it? You don't really need AWD going straight line at constant speed..

    Again, no flame intended at all, just want to fully understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrQQ View Post
    What I wanted to ask was, you guys keep saying Subaru has more "effective and efficient" awd system. While I can agree with "more effective" part, what's more efficient about it? You don't really need AWD going straight line at constant speed..
    **** it. It's already revamped, so I might as well add to the thread. I fail to see how Subaru's AWD system is "more effective." Simpler -yes. More effective -not really. Subaru uses simple viscous locking differentials for the center diff. The MS6 AWD system is capable of torque-vectoring with a clutch-pack type center diff. It's much more akin to the DCCD on the STi than the viscous type in the WRX. Does the viscous diff get the job done? Yes, but it's not as versatile. The stock WRX center diff is locked only until 4KG of force bias exists between the front and rear axles. After that, it acts as a viscous limited slip diff to quell unecessary wheelspin. The MS6 (and DCCD) can vary the level of lockup, from fully free, to fully locked. To me, that's more effective.
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    well this went way less interesting when I expected it to

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    no.. a technical discussion bout awd operation.

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    whens the last time that didnt end in a **** storm?

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    Now that's true.

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