I dont know how much the SI's are, but you can get a TR under $22k.
This is a discussion on 07 WRX or 06 Si? within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; well put. I dont know how much the SI's are, but you can get a TR under k....
Last edited by D0WNxSH1FT; 11-27-2006 at 02:17 PM.
2008 Satin White Pearl WRX Sedan w/ Navi
2005 San Remo Red WRX Sedan w/ VF34 (traded)
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i was in the same situation as you and it helps if you test drive both to see which you like. in my case, i was unable to test drive a civic si because the dealerships did not want to put any miles on them. I was able to test drive a type s, and i based my decision on that.
price wise the cars will be very close as the civic si's are still in high demand and every dealer i went to was selling them over sticker with forced accessory packages. not to mention there is a waiting list on the si's and the dealers only receive 1-2 cars a month. as someone mentioned earlier a TR can be bought for under 22k.
performance wise i think we all know wrx > si.
06' WRB TR(Stock)
i was never really worried about the price of a wrx.. it was the insurance.. and as it ends up. i dont think that i can afford a WRX at this time.. it would be about 2k more a year just for insurance.. so it looks like i am going to be going Si or type S
current savings toward my subbie!!
speculation seems to be testing the upcoming impreza platform in a legacy to keep the mystery on the new impreza platform.
the STI forester (6 speed version) will also be here in a couple years (our techs went to some sort of training and they told the techs to be familiar with the STI 6 speed because it will be in the STI forester in a year or two)
I was in the same scenario WRX or SI the si was actually more insurance and it plain sux compared to the wrx---no torque whatso ever and the interior is just freakin weird---so I got the wrx. Believe it or not I was a serious HONDA fan. I've owned mulitple Hondas and I most say that I love the wrx better than all of them. Only thing honda has over subbies is the smooth transmissions.
Last edited by jtsimaras; 11-28-2006 at 11:04 AM.
I also drove the SI when I was leaving my RX-8, the SI felt gutless compared to that and the RX-8 felt gutless compared to my 06 WRX. Two totally diffrent cars one with a lot of power to start with, and easy to get more cheap. One with not much go, and a funky interior.....save up for the WRX you won't be dissapointed
I am still confused on the comparison between them with whp and wtq. The hp rating for the si is 197, yet dynos are showing 180-200 "whp" stock. This would put it near the 07 WRX but the torque is not even comparable.
Here is a link that was comparing the mazdaspeed3, GTI, and Si. Are all dyno charts measured in whp? If so then the whp is quite impressive for the Si. only 17hp loss while the WRX has about 50hp loss from the drive train.
I found this comment interesting. "And arguments about turbo lag here are moot; the Civic Si's drive-by-wire throttle is so slow to respond that you can literally press the throttle to the floor and release it without any response." The 07 WRX's also have drive-by-wire now which is supposedly not that bad but with the turbo lag, it would about equal the 2 out in this "comfort area".
I think I read the Si being 6.7 0-60 which would throw it out of our league in the 1/4 mile but from a roll it would be closer. The Si is lighter making it able to handle better, easier. From experience, the back seat is worse then my old Tiburon but not as bad as a Carrera.
The Si is a great car but I wouldn't call it better at all. If you can, go for the WRX. I would have to say as a comfort daily driver, the civic will not disapoint you.
-The shifting is a b***h sometimes (always when compared to the ease of the civic)
-not as nimble as the Si
-not as "sleek looking" ?
-transmission is not as strong and is a 5 speed
-it's a civic
-FWD(not so bad but still not as good as AWD)
-it's a civic
-Strange power loss then rise at 5300rpms due to V-tech (could be considered a good thing as it "kicks" but power loss is power loss in my eyes)
-it's still a civic
But seriously the civic is better for you if you don't want to deal with little problems as Subaru has been known to have random minor issues. But if you think you can deal with it's minor glitches, you will realize the WRX is a better car for you.
I've owned a GTI 1.8t and driven the last generation and this generation's SI and can honestly say that the GTI felt a lot better. And from what I've read on the VW forums the new GTI feels a lot better than last generations. Especially with the new DSG system. I haven't test driven one yet but plan on soon, just to see how it feels.
go here www.vwforum.com
plus VW's kick honda's rear end in the luxuries/interior department
ahhh!!! just have to add this since i came from the honda scene a while ago.
its not V-tech... it aint no phone yo. its vtec the new ones also are gonna run the K20 which isn't a wimpy motor like some of the old hondas.
for an everyday driver... i would love to have my civic back. got better mpg, beat the sh*t outta it everyday and nothing broke.
My lug nuts need more torque then your Honda makes!! :P (Stolen from subaru_crazy)
I say test drive both and see what you like.
FWIW, WRX user community > Honda user community.
I would be proud to own a wrx, however I would not let anyone know I had a Si. When I think honda I think rice... Gonna pull out some racism and say I also think spanish man thinking his car is hot **** with his fake white painted rims.