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    Quote Originally Posted by enash99 View Post
    Maybe since we have one i can put this into a "real" perspective.

    6 races ran

    race 1: From a 30 mph roll, I had lenghts on him by 120

    race 2: same

    race 3: Around 50 - 60 mph (dont remember excatly) to 120 = wrx by a couple of lenghts

    race 4 and race 5: from a dig = M5 still looking for traction while i was hitting 2nd. I shut it down at 3rd with 2 bus lenghts between us.

    Race 6: another one from 2nd gear roll, I again pulled him.

    If you care at all about the clutch in the M5 it is difficult to launch well and still be gental as to not to wear it out to quickly. The clutch doesnt last at all in that car. We have gone through quite a few. BMW has responeded to our inquiry about the weak stock clutch with "this is a natural failure point" this has been built into the drive line for one reason or another.

    I actually had the clutch plate come off on me during a run down the 1/8 mile track. We had just had BMW service the car and install a new clutch. Had maybe only 1200 miles on it and i was on my 3rd pass i went to shift out of third and when i pushed in the clutch i heard and felt a loud slam. towed it to BMW and they said their tech didnt correctly install it. So we got another one and this time a flywheel too!

    Now if you dont care to much and can replace the clutch when ever you want. Then obviously you will get better times.. We just didnt want to drive ours this hard.
    You always say "we have a M5" Who is "we", your family? I am just confused, so I am asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by enash99 View Post
    Maybe since we have one i can put this into a "real" perspective.

    6 races ran

    race 1: From a 30 mph roll, I had lenghts on him by 120

    race 2: same

    race 3: Around 50 - 60 mph (dont remember excatly) to 120 = wrx by a couple of lenghts

    race 4 and race 5: from a dig = M5 still looking for traction while i was hitting 2nd. I shut it down at 3rd with 2 bus lenghts between us.

    Race 6: another one from 2nd gear roll, I again pulled him.

    If you care at all about the clutch in the M5 it is difficult to launch well and still be gental as to not to wear it out to quickly. The clutch doesnt last at all in that car. We have gone through quite a few. BMW has responeded to our inquiry about the weak stock clutch with "this is a natural failure point" this has been built into the drive line for one reason or another.

    I actually had the clutch plate come off on me during a run down the 1/8 mile track. We had just had BMW service the car and install a new clutch. Had maybe only 1200 miles on it and i was on my 3rd pass i went to shift out of third and when i pushed in the clutch i heard and felt a loud slam. towed it to BMW and they said their tech didnt correctly install it. So we got another one and this time a flywheel too!

    Now if you dont care to much and can replace the clutch when ever you want. Then obviously you will get better times.. We just didnt want to drive ours this hard.
    what does your car run? it better be able to trap at least 108mph to compete with a M5 from a roll. Granted, from a stop the WRX is strong, but the M5 easily has the capability of catching up. From a roll, i would seriously expect the M5 to pull on you, especially over 100mph where, even though u have a different turbo and mods, the M5 is still stronger stock vs. yours modded top end wise. if you don't believe, ask someone else drive "your guys'" M5 who knows how to drive a RWD german car. Trust me, with a good driver, there wont be excessive spinning from a stop, and with a better driver, which would probably be someone 'outside the group/family of 'we'" they wont have to damage clutches and all that stuff. I would expect a BMW transmission to last longer than a WRX's, especially when all u seem to launch the WRX hard from a stop to get bus lengths in front of the M5, from a stop. 5,000rpm launches mean ur beating up on ur clutch more than a guy driving an m5 launching at 1,500rpm... unless u or ur family or ur guys or whoever 'we' are, are launching the BMW from high rpms, then i can see why the BMW is losing and not getting off the line correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juice33 View Post
    You always say "we have a M5" Who is "we", your family? I am just confused, so I am asking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellinopedo182 View Post
    what does your car run? it better be able to trap at least 108mph to compete with a M5 from a roll. Granted, from a stop the WRX is strong, but the M5 easily has the capability of catching up. From a roll, i would seriously expect the M5 to pull on you, especially over 100mph where, even though u have a different turbo and mods, the M5 is still stronger stock vs. yours modded top end wise. if you don't believe, ask someone else drive "your guys'" M5 who knows how to drive a RWD german car. Trust me, with a good driver, there wont be excessive spinning from a stop, and with a better driver, which would probably be someone 'outside the group/family of 'we'" they wont have to damage clutches and all that stuff. I would expect a BMW transmission to last longer than a WRX's, especially when all u seem to launch the WRX hard from a stop to get bus lengths in front of the M5, from a stop. 5,000rpm launches mean ur beating up on ur clutch more than a guy driving an m5 launching at 1,500rpm... unless u or ur family or ur guys or whoever 'we' are, are launching the BMW from high rpms, then i can see why the BMW is losing and not getting off the line correctly.

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    donna know what to tell you man, these are the results. Maybe if we ran to 170 im sure i would be far behind but to 120 i pulled him.
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    Even if your car was stock, your chances of warranty coverage are about as good as a retarded chimp trying to do a calculus problem while high on pcp.

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    Quote Originally Posted by enash99 View Post
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    donna know what to tell you man, these are the results. Maybe if we ran to 170 im sure i would be far behind but to 120 i pulled him.
    how about this. you race in ur wrx, someone in the m5. then switch drivers, and see the outcome. i guess its a good way to see exactly where both these cars stands... and taking away from driver error, in a way?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ellinopedo182 View Post
    how about this. you race in ur wrx, someone in the m5. then switch drivers, and see the outcome. i guess its a good way to see exactly where both these cars stands... and taking away from driver error, in a way?
    If neither know how to drive the M5 then the M5 will always lose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by viperuws View Post
    If neither know how to drive the M5 then the M5 will always lose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yossarian
    Even if your car was stock, your chances of warranty coverage are about as good as a retarded chimp trying to do a calculus problem while high on pcp.

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