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    Heey...
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    Quote Originally Posted by WRX_UA
    It was my friend...
    He started in the right gear and revved accordingly. He just s**ked...
    We were rolling from 50 km/h up to 200km/h. I pulled 1.5 cars.
    Wagon is fast.
    I don't give a crap how fast your wagon is. Your friend doesn't know how to drive his car. Stage2 wrx's are not going to put nearly 2 cars on an M3 from a roll, ESPECIALLY going upto 120mph.
    If you beat him, fine. But do not try and sit there and play it off like he drove the M3 well and you won because "wagon is fast"

    Why the hell do all these 06' newbs think their 2.5L motor puts out an extra 100whp that no one else seems to know about other than other 06' owners?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTR rex
    Why the hell do all these 06' newbs think their 2.5L motor puts out an extra 100whp that no one else seems to know about other than other 06' owners?
    Pssh more like 150 n00b.
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    30-40 more whp than the 2.0L, but certainly not enough to hit 108mph in the 1/4 with stage 2.
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    Do they really have that much more whp? I know they have a bit more tq but i thought the hp rating was the same basically.


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    Quote Originally Posted by powder
    Do they really have that much more whp? I know they have a bit more tq but i thought the hp rating was the same basically.
    Yeah... Most pre-06's dyno about 165-170whp and many 06's have been putting down 190-200whp. They do make considerably more torque, the only problem is that once you max out each stock turbo on each car (say stage2) they are basically making the same whp at that point because is an issue of limitation with the turbo. But at stage2 while they are making the same whp, the 06's are still putting down considerably more torque.

    The edge however is only a few tenths in the 1320 and 1-2 mph's in the traps in stock form and once at stage2 the numbers are actually quite similar. You see, with the stock wrx (06 or not) the td04 stock turbo really limits the potential it has. The reason 06's are posting better stock times is because of the lack of an uppipe and more whp/tq. BUT, once you start modding each car and max out on the td04.. around stage2 each car performs quite similarly... the 06' was just closer to that point to begin with. A stage2 02wrx and a stage2 06' wrx do not perform that much different in respect to 1/4mile and trapspeeds (tested this first hand) but the 06's is coming out of the hole better with tons more torque. The real advantage of the 06' is really just in the daily driver sense because of the smooth early-onset of torque.

    It seems some 06 owners disagree with me though, and think their 06' is making ~ 300whp stock and takes out STi's.
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    just look at the dyno graphs put out by cobb. stg 2 (06 or 0405) are making 280hp at the crank. the 06 just makes more torque because of the displacement. my roommate has an 06 and has a hard time believing a stg 2 blobeye will hang with him when hes stg 2. yesterday we got a fly by by a blk 05 wagon with springs, gold OZs and exhaust for sure and my roomy says "it would have been close". no nick, it wouldn't have been.
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    AWD is like 20-25% drivetrain loss right? So i don't get that if the '06's are dynoing at 190-200 at the wheels and '02-'05 is dynoing about 170ish at the wheels... how do both engines have 227chp? Pre-06 would be about 210ish and '06+ would be 230ish. Yet, every website (credible or not) claims pre06 at 227 and 06+ at 230 (so a few different sites say 227-230 between the 2 engine sizes).
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    One word for the '06 WRX:

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    Quote Originally Posted by prspect06
    One word for the '06 WRX:

    UNDERRATED!
    exactly.

    u have to go by someone besides subaru. 06 were underrated, but once both cars get modded they get a little closer because of the td04.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTR rex
    Yeah... Most pre-06's dyno about 165-170whp and many 06's have been putting down 190-200whp. They do make considerably more torque, the only problem is that once you max out each stock turbo on each car (say stage2) they are basically making the same whp at that point because is an issue of limitation with the turbo. But at stage2 while they are making the same whp, the 06's are still putting down considerably more torque.

    The edge however is only a few tenths in the 1320 and 1-2 mph's in the traps in stock form and once at stage2 the numbers are actually quite similar. You see, with the stock wrx (06 or not) the td04 stock turbo really limits the potential it has. The reason 06's are posting better stock times is because of the lack of an uppipe and more whp/tq. BUT, once you start modding each car and max out on the td04.. around stage2 each car performs quite similarly... the 06' was just closer to that point to begin with. A stage2 02wrx and a stage2 06' wrx do not perform that much different in respect to 1/4mile and trapspeeds (tested this first hand) but the 06's is coming out of the hole better with tons more torque. The real advantage of the 06' is really just in the daily driver sense because of the smooth early-onset of torque.

    It seems some 06 owners disagree with me though, and think their 06' is making ~ 300whp stock and takes out STi's.
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    I hate these n00bs not driving '06's that don't realize how goddamn fast our cars are. I mean just today, I was playing with this dude in his M5, and he totally flicked me off 'cause I told him his car was a turd. After that I went and filled up with 87 octane gas from Wal-Mart.



    edit: I'm surprised by the hint of hostility in this thread! I saw an '02 today and we exchanged friendly waves
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    I'm not hostile. I usually give/get a friendly nod from most WRX owners i see. No matter the year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTR rex
    I don't give a crap how fast your wagon is. Your friend doesn't know how to drive his car. Stage2 wrx's are not going to put nearly 2 cars on an M3 from a roll, ESPECIALLY going upto 120mph.
    If you beat him, fine. But do not try and sit there and play it off like he drove the M3 well and you won because "wagon is fast"

    Why the hell do all these 06' newbs think their 2.5L motor puts out an extra 100whp that no one else seems to know about other than other 06' owners?
    Well, and what about going head a head 50-190km/h with e39 M5 445hp??? (extra 1 80kg guy in m5 but it causes less weight disadvantage than in wrx)

    What about my friend, he know how to drive better than most of those subaru owners*
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