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    14' WRX vs 13' Civic Si

    I recently traded in my ninth generation civic si for a 2014 5 door wrx...mainly because I will soon be a father (literally within a week), and needed a car with more punch and awd. However driving my wrx I'm able to see what I took granted for in the Si. The most noticeable driving feeling I would say is the transmission...the wrx feels like the transmission was made in the Stone Age compared to the smooth shifting six speed Si. Makes me curious to see if the factory sti shifter would improve this. My biggest complaint, and maybe it's something I'll get used to, is it fully getting in the gates with my wrx. What I do like about the wrx's transmission is how longer 1st is compared to the Si since it is a five speed, meaning I can hit 60 with only one shift, unlike the si which hit 60 in third gear. The raw power of the wrx and grip dominates the Si. However paired with a heavier rear sway bar like mine, helped the Si's understeer tenfolds during hard cornering, and matched with the light weight and higher revving (compared to the wrx) N/A 200 hp K24z7 engine made it a fun car to drive....although I wished the vtec engagement point was below 5k rpm. The Si had awesome gas mileage, I averaged 31 mpg (I do drive conservatively on the majority). Hated the wing though, it's nice to be able to see out of my rearview mirror now...I don't know how you STi guys do it. The interior was also very very nice in the Si since it went through a refresh after people complained about the cheap feel of the 12'...the car itself looked very nice too, with subtle ques to separate it from the rest of the civics, I LOVED the rear taillights on the 13+ models that reminded you of the older brother Accords....Now enough fluffing of the Si....the wrx like I said has a dominating feel during hard cornering. The acceleration feels incredible, and my main reason I love the wrx is that everything about the car feels great, and I do t have the urge to improve much else (I say that now)...the power is enough for me, the wheels are much more handsome than the Si, and it's a wagon. I am very happy on my trade, and wanted to share my experience with the Si.
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    The STi wing does not interfere with vision whatsoever. Kart boy has a short shifter you could look into as well.

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    When I looked at the pics I thought you had a red 2015 wrx at first.
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    I can agree with you on the stock tranny in the wrx feeling kind of sloppy compaired to some. I have the subaru sti 5mt short throw shifter in my wrx, makes it much better and notchier feeling. But the subaru sti shifter came on the wrx when i bought it. If mine was stock i would have done the Kartboy short throw shifter with the front and rear bushing. I do plan on doing the bushings in the near future, and maybe even the kartboy short throw. Basically, what im saying is dont waste your money on the subaru sti short throw, as the kartboy sts with bushing will make your car shift so much better.
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    You need to do full bars and bushes on the WRX. I say before engine mods. But yeah, Kartboy short throw shifter with the front and rear bushing. Stat.

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    Yes, I love how the stiffer rear swaybar on the civic improved handling, and even gave the car a little oversteer, which is always welcom on FWD cars. Also the ease of installation and rather cheap upgrade; the rear swaybar will definitely be the first modification to my wrx. Also wanted to add that my five door wrx was the last one in five states near where I live that was a base model. I have a deployment coming up so I wanted to get it now, before there were none left. I do love the 15' but based on the fact the vehicle is so new, and they don't offer a five door, I went with the 14'.

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    The Si is nice. My wife drives a 12' Si that I get to drive a lot during the weekends. It is super nice. The transmission is AMAZING compared to my 14' WRX. I also have the STI short throw shifter but the Si just shifts sooooo smooth and effortlessly. Eventually, going to add a flash tune, exhaust, and higher flow air filter on the Si to give it more power. Definitely a fun car to drive. We've been averaging about 26 MPG with it whereas my WRX has been getting about 20. Both are amazing cars though. Very happy with this combination we've got.

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    new to the forum but i am also coming from a 9th gen 12 civic si 4dr and just ordered a 15 wrx. i have only test drove a few miles on the 15 wrx and didnt get enough time to give a good view but i can tell the civic is a lot smoother shifting and mileage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by griz View Post
    new to the forum but i am also coming from a 9th gen 12 civic si 4dr and just ordered a 15 wrx. i have only test drove a few miles on the 15 wrx and didnt get enough time to give a good view but i can tell the civic is a lot smoother shifting and mileage.
    Be ready for more gas/clutch work....the civic you can do a lot of 0-5 mphs on just the clutch alone since first was so short...you need to give a little more gas/riding the clutch a little on the wrx...I've already stalled a few times lol...but since you're getting the 15 and that's a six speed it might not be so different than the civic. Let us know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yoro721 View Post
    Be ready for more gas/clutch work....the civic you can do a lot of 0-5 mphs on just the clutch alone since first was so short...you need to give a little more gas/riding the clutch a little on the wrx...I've already stalled a few times lol...but since you're getting the 15 and that's a six speed it might not be so different than the civic. Let us know!
    when i test drove it i had no problem with smooth shifting. i did notice you have to keep rpm below 2k to stay smooth. unless you are going for a sportier ride. i too am a new father and needed something safer in the winter, i live in wny. i just ordered on 4/14 so it might be close to the end of june before i can get a good comparison.

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    I came from a 2011 FA5. The clutch on those civics are way too light. Before I got my wrx, I was driving my buddy's 07 wrx and the difference between the clutches was night and day. When I got back into my Si, I thought to myself "this clutch is so light why does it even exist?". At times I felt like my foot would rip right through the floor LOL. Happy I got the wrx and havent looked back since

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    Quote Originally Posted by wrxnguyen View Post
    I came from a 2011 FA5. The clutch on those civics are way too light. Before I got my wrx, I was driving my buddy's 07 wrx and the difference between the clutches was night and day. When I got back into my Si, I thought to myself "this clutch is so light why does it even exist?". At times I felt like my foot would rip right through the floor LOL. Happy I got the wrx and havent looked back since
    I've never driven a 8th gen, but the 9thgen had a lower redline, and I thought the 9thgens clutch and transmission was perfect. I drove a 12' jeep rubicon before the civic, and the wrx almost reminds me of that one lol. But it's not a bad thing, it requires more driver input, and obviously for car enthusiasts that's a good thing. I love it more and more every time I drive.

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    I came from an 08 supercharged si. I miss that car terribly, it was so much fun to drive and rev out to 8600 Rpms.

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    I considered getting rid of my 2011 wrx for a 2013 si or accord sport for a lot of the reasons you mentioned. I used to have an 06 rsx-s and I had been missing the sharpness of that car in the 2 cars I had following it(04 g35 sedan and 2011 wrx hatch). I test drove the 2 Hondas and liked both a lot but they just seemed so dull coming out of the wrx. Also tried a 2011 gti, also dull. Then a few weeks ago the local dealer got a 2015 wrx in and after a few miles of test driving I was sold. It's not quite as refined as the Hondas but it's much closer and way more enjoyable. I think you probably should have waited for the 15. Probably a useless post at this point but for the first time in a long time I don't miss my rsx. Not that the 2011 was bad, it was quite enjoyable, but it can wear on you.
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