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    A stock, 2012 WRX puts down 255-260 at the wheels on that dyno? Nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    A stock, 2012 WRX puts down 255-260 at the wheels on that dyno? Nice!
    In the one graph...then in the other a 2011 puts down 223??
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    A stock, 2012 WRX puts down 255-260 at the wheels on that dyno? Nice!
    Yeah what is going on there??? That means Crank, it IS at STI power levels...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikie13 View Post
    Yeah what is going on there??? That means Crank, it IS at STI power levels...
    That's old news... the WRX and STi put down similar power numbers on the same dyno.
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    I expect Subaru rated it that low because of the STI. It would be hard to rate from a marketing standpoint at say 295 when the STI is rated at 305.

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    I've heard all the talk about overrated WRX and underrated STI, but someone told me the real reason for the dyno numbers is the STI drivetrain. I'd think the better drivetrain would put more to the ground, but was told it eats up more of the crank HP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rquinn19 View Post
    I've heard all the talk about overrated WRX and underrated STI, but someone told me the real reason for the dyno numbers is the STI drivetrain. I'd think the better drivetrain would put more to the ground, but was told it eats up more of the crank HP.
    Sure, the beefier brakes and half shafts eat some power... but honestly the torsen-based differentials in the STi are actually more thermally efficient than the Viscous diffs in the WRX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by XRedJar View Post
    I discount the 0 - 60 and 1/4 mile times a bit, and here is why......to get those times you have to launch it HARD. That is not something you are going to do often or you will be replacing clutches or gearboxes. Some may wind it up and launch hard, but I'm not going to.
    If you want to discount 0-60 times and other performance achievements, why not just discount the turbo? Why not just buy an Impreza? If you don't care about all the performance aspects or car comparisons, than what are you doing with a WRX in the first place lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNBG View Post
    If you want to discount 0-60 times and other performance achievements, why not just discount the turbo? Why not just buy an Impreza? If you don't care about all the performance aspects or car comparisons, than what are you doing with a WRX in the first place lol
    0-60 is a bogus comparo, sorry. If you believe the hype about 0-60, you are either a fool or have never seen a car. If you want to know the acceleration capability of a car, the 1/4 trap speed is where it's at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterNBG View Post
    If you want to discount 0-60 times and other performance achievements, why not just discount the turbo? Why not just buy an Impreza? If you don't care about all the performance aspects or car comparisons, than what are you doing with a WRX in the first place lol
    If you read my post, my intent was that to get the claimed 0 - 60 times you have to launch it extremely hard. You will either kill your clutch or transmission doing so repeatedly. I love the performance of the car, but I'm not going to abuse it to get numbers quoted by a magazine.

    I think you took what I said way out of context. The three are close enough in performance that in the REAL world any advantage would be inside the driver's margin of error. But what do I know...I only have three decades of experience, and numerous track days to base my opinion on.

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    okay okay zax & XRedJar I stand corrected. && yes I did take what XRedJar said out of context. But c'mon, the reason Subaru's stick out form the crowd in drag styled racing is because of the AWD launch. I go to this drag strip all the time as a spectator and see time and time again Subaru's and Evo's destroying everything off the line because of AWD and launch control (i know launch control is Aftermarket lol) and of course hard launching AWD is bad, that's why you don't do it all the time, but when you do, you know you're going to pull

    like zax said though, trap speed is where it's at.

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    No worries here. Trust me....I'd love to bang off a high rpm clutch drop kind of launch and have it hold. My kind of fun. I just don't want to do it in MY car ;-).

    In all my posts, I was only getting at the fact that the differences reported on paper don't always translate the same in the real world. I think they are all good in their own ways, but the WRX was my choice. FWD just does not do anything for me.
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    I forgot to mention the 1st WRX dyno is a modified WRX the bottom dyno is a stock WRX.
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