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This is a discussion on 12(ej255) vs evo x within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; I was thinking of much more closed courses than Silverstone. Example: ever notice how one autox course can differ so ...

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    I was thinking of much more closed courses than Silverstone. Example: ever notice how one autox course can differ so dramatically from another even though they all cover roughly the same area in layout? I've become reasonably good at guessing who's laid out a course over time. If, say, the course is a broom closet with one S after another and more cones than an ice cream store, it's the Miata guy that designed it. If it's the Bonneville Salt Flats, it's the Corvette guy that designed it. They tend to lay out courses to their strengths etc.

    To the OP's subject, and ignoring straights (they are in my view not meaningful):

    I'd rather drive the WRX because I find it easier to drive. I prefer understeer and the extra displacement could forgive a mistimed shift or an earlier lift at the entry by letting me get out of a bend a little better -- at least that's my hope. It is my impression that a novice would have an easier time moving a WRX quickly than an Evo.

    I do believe the Evo is a quicker car, but the WRX is a better car. I'd buy the latter but borrow the former.
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    I say remove the WRX vs World since Mods treat is as if its the motor sport talk section. Talk about how the WRX compares to the EVO ok... "Motorsport talk". Talk about a WRX racing an EVO... bad "WRX Vs World". If you dont want people posting race vids and talking about racing remove the section called "WRX vs WORLD".

    Anyone here who drives a WRX and tries to tell me they dont gun it up to 45 from a stop light here and there or floor it on an on ramp a few times a month is full of crap. cracks me up how people try to act like they never have seen their RPM needle touch the red yet they have cars pushing close to 400hp with every bolt-on and tune possible.

    If a guy jumps on and posts a vid of him racing (not smart) and people jump him like hes the only one reaching full boost in a WRX. Tell him he's an idiot for posting the vid but don't act like you're not guilty of speeding from day to day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SD_GR View Post
    I do believe the Evo is a quicker car, but the WRX is a better car. I'd buy the latter but borrow the former.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx1234 View Post
    I say remove the WRX vs World since Mods treat is as if its the motor sport talk section. Talk about how the WRX compares to the EVO ok... "Motorsport talk". Talk about a WRX racing an EVO... bad "WRX Vs World". If you dont want people posting race vids and talking about racing remove the section called "WRX vs WORLD".

    Anyone here who drives a WRX and tries to tell me they dont gun it up to 45 from a stop light here and there or floor it on an on ramp a few times a month is full of crap. cracks me up how people try to act like they never have seen their RPM needle touch the red yet they have cars pushing close to 400hp with every bolt-on and tune possible.

    If a guy jumps on and posts a vid of him racing (not smart) and people jump him like hes the only one reaching full boost in a WRX. Tell him he's an idiot for posting the vid but don't act like you're not guilty of speeding from day to day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx1234 View Post
    I say remove the WRX vs World since Mods treat is as if its the motor sport talk section.
    I honestly don't see it that way, I see a clear distinction between this forum and the motorsport forum. I moderate neither so I am speaking as a member.

    Talk about how the WRX compares to the EVO ok... "Motorsport talk". Talk about a WRX racing an EVO... bad "WRX Vs World". If you dont want people posting race vids and talking about racing remove the section called "WRX vs WORLD".
    I see your point but don't think it's worth removing the forum.

    Anyone here who drives a WRX and tries to tell me they dont gun it up to 45 from a stop light here and there or floor it on an on ramp a few times a month is full of crap. cracks me up how people try to act like they never have seen their RPM needle touch the red yet they have cars pushing close to 400hp with every bolt-on and tune possible.
    I don't think there are too many examples of this. Are there?

    If a guy jumps on and posts a vid of him racing (not smart) and people jump him like hes the only one reaching full boost in a WRX. Tell him he's an idiot for posting the vid but don't act like you're not guilty of speeding from day to day.
    I don't think the two are connected. A video can be absolutely idiotic regardless of whether its critics speed daily. I too find it unlikely everyone doesn't speed at one point or another though.

    The forum has rules against illegal activity for reasons that are not limited to some sort of moral stance. They are practical reasons. I of course don't own the forum; in fact I don't own any forum. However if I did, I'd want those rules in place if for no other reason than to protect myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SubiEj255 View Post
    That's not the point. The point is they are all illegal. Your argument is invalid.

    I'm not responding anymore. The mods can lock this up.
    The rules are not for debate - it is against them. Note the emphasis here on "first hand". It is for everyone's benefit - particularly yours.

    "Do not post "first hand" videos of Street Racing. Meaning no videos of street racing where you took the video, participated in illegal racing or personally know the participants. The only "first hand" videos allowed are legal activities, sanctioned events on closed tracks are allowed."

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    I have a couple more moments to explain the thinking here.

    If this were not stated as a video you took, or stated or identifiable as being of your car, it would not violate the rules as far as we are concerned. That is why this isn't the MS forum.

    Stating kills etc. without stating it was a public location involving excessive speeds etc. - here not MS where a time slip would be in order.

    DP and other modifications aren't hot legal topics, and don't generate this quite consistent type of conflict.

    We don't want you to get hurt, hurt other people, or get in trouble. We don't want to have to handle requests from LEO for your IP etc.

    It isn't debatable.


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