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    Wrx or ss?

    I have a 2011 wrx premium and its all stock 265hp wit short throw shifter, is it faster then the 2009-2010 cobalt ss turbo? Like off a dig or roll?

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    Same driver, same conditions...WRX from a dig, Cobalt from a roll. Otherwise the dig could go either way depending on driver.
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    Well my friend has a 09 ss turbo he claims he can smoke me from a dig nd roll. But iam pretty sure i can smoke it from either because i was neck and neck wit a mazda speed 3 nd i had a bit of a pull like half a car on it. I also smoked a 05 sti with full catback exhaust the driver was a good driver just that i am better with my car. stock vs stock i am pretty sure i can take the ss either way. Why do u say he can take me
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    he will probably take you from a roll because once both cars are going the same speed, cobalt has to put the power to only 2 wheels as opposed to 4... wrx has more drivetain loss because its awd, therefore, from a roll he should be able to slightly beat you, but only marginally. from a dig, you'll have 2-3 car lengths on him by the time you 60mph, if not more. by the time he catches up and overtakes you, it won't matter because the 1/4 mile is long done with.
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    Yeah the roll race i dont even concider that a race anyway. Drag race consists of r/t, but i am pretty sure i can take him on a roll too i took on a ms3 by half a car. But from a dig i am sure i can smoke him bad, he wont stand a chance. The new wrx 0-60 in 4.4 sec wit shorth throw shifter so thats a second and half behind the ss is 5.8. I accually smoked a 335i the other day off a roll nd dig.

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    WRX will win from a dig if you can launch the car well which I don't recommend to do often.
    Turbo Cobalt will win from a roll vs a stock wrx once you hit 3rd gear he will start to pull you.
    The stock wrx power just tapers off in 3rd gear. Once I got my Cobb Ap and down pipe I was amazing how much better the car pulled in 3rd and 4th gear.
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    I accually take my car to the auto cross i have recieved the best time out of all of the stock cars i even beat a 430 ferrari by 1 sec around track haha. But what can i doo to get my wrx up too 400hp+?

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    I am more then sure i can smoke a ss of the line to 100mph wit no problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadir07 View Post
    I accually take my car to the auto cross i have recieved the best time out of all of the stock cars i even beat a 430 ferrari by 1 sec around track haha. But what can i doo to get my wrx up too 400hp+?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadir07 View Post
    I am more then sure i can smoke a ss of the line to 100mph wit no problem.
    It would be a good race but once your in 3rd gear the Cobalt is going to start making ground on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadir07 View Post
    stock vs stock i am pretty sure i can take the ss either way. Why do u say he can take me
    Off the roll?
    similar power numbers, similar weight.. one big difference, he's only driving two wheels vs you're driving all 4. Drag is not on your side either..so between driveline loss and aerodynamic drag the cobalt will start to gain advantage above 100mph.

    Now that said, I used to ABUSE my friends cobalt ss with my old merkur (mk1 sierra) .. and I was only making maybe 220-230hp at that time. Again though, still comparing 2wd cars. Awd takes quite a bit more power to keep pushing at speed vs the fwd or rwd counterparts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadir07 View Post
    But what can i doo to get my wrx up too 400hp+?
    spend about 10k and keep a good chunk in the bank for when more breaks
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    Hahaha well i allways thought the ss looked like it was a new cavalier haha but i will get it up there then would wrx be faster if it had 400 whp then cobalt if that had 400 fwhp?

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    WHP means next to nothing most of the time. One dyno that reads 400 whp could read 350 on another and 450 on another. Plus dyno numbers don't always equal street performance
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