Well my friend has a 09 ss turbo he claims he can smoke me from a dig nd roll. But iam pretty sure i can smoke it from either because i was neck and neck wit a mazda speed 3 nd i had a bit of a pull like half a car on it. I also smoked a 05 sti with full catback exhaust the driver was a good driver just that i am better with my car. stock vs stock i am pretty sure i can take the ss either way. Why do u say he can take me
Off the roll?
similar power numbers, similar weight.. one big difference, he's only driving two wheels vs you're driving all 4. Drag is not on your side either..so between driveline loss and aerodynamic drag the cobalt will start to gain advantage above 100mph.
Now that said, I used to ABUSE my friends cobalt ss with my old merkur (mk1 sierra) .. and I was only making maybe 220-230hp at that time. Again though, still comparing 2wd cars. Awd takes quite a bit more power to keep pushing at speed vs the fwd or rwd counterparts.
he will probably take you from a roll because once both cars are going the same speed, cobalt has to put the power to only 2 wheels as opposed to 4... wrx has more drivetain loss because its awd, therefore, from a roll he should be able to slightly beat you, but only marginally. from a dig, you'll have 2-3 car lengths on him by the time you 60mph, if not more. by the time he catches up and overtakes you, it won't matter because the 1/4 mile is long done with.
Yeah the roll race i dont even concider that a race anyway. Drag race consists of r/t, but i am pretty sure i can take him on a roll too i took on a ms3 by half a car. But from a dig i am sure i can smoke him bad, he wont stand a chance. The new wrx 0-60 in 4.4 sec wit shorth throw shifter so thats a second and half behind the ss is 5.8. I accually smoked a 335i the other day off a roll nd dig.
WRX will win from a dig if you can launch the car well which I don't recommend to do often.
Turbo Cobalt will win from a roll vs a stock wrx once you hit 3rd gear he will start to pull you.
The stock wrx power just tapers off in 3rd gear. Once I got my Cobb Ap and down pipe I was amazing how much better the car pulled in 3rd and 4th gear.
I accually take my car to the auto cross i have recieved the best time out of all of the stock cars i even beat a 430 ferrari by 1 sec around track haha. But what can i doo to get my wrx up too 400hp+?
400whp? turbo back exhaust, intake, at least a 20g turbo even on E85, front mount intercooler, fuel pump, injectors, professional tune, etc... And at 400hp it all depends on how you drive if it last.
Hahaha well i allways thought the ss looked like it was a new cavalier haha but i will get it up there then would wrx be faster if it had 400 whp then cobalt if that had 400 fwhp?
WHP means next to nothing most of the time. One dyno that reads 400 whp could read 350 on another and 450 on another. Plus dyno numbers don't always equal street performance
I accually just raced him off a dig 0-110mph and i won by 1 and half car lengths after all the wrx is faster. We did a 20mph roll up to 100mph i pulled on him but could not catch me.
It was on the street but we have a street where no one lives and there is never trafic which the whole town does races. The ss is accually slow off the start Even with the launch control, off the dig i was pull on him like it was a cobalt lt ahahahha. But i need help with this stage 2 or 3, i never modded wrx i did to my old rx7 but never on wrx what is the gains on the stage 2-3 on cobb? I heard about this 60$ tune that i only need downpipe for?
That's the tune i run. I have been through Cobb stage 2, Perrin stage 2 and TP stage 2. I would have to say the TP seemed to be the smoothest of them all. The Perrin seemed to be a little jumpy but felt more aggressive than the cobb. The TP felt like the perrin but was smooth like the cobb so its like the best of both worlds. Only thing is you need the software and a tactrix cable for your laptop... then you can load the tune.
Really though, the Cobalt is not all that bad. Its not like the interior can be much worse than the crappy interior in the WRX. And it does have really good performance, as well as a proper LSD that gives it pretty much the same if not better traction than the WRX on corner exit. They really aren't bad cars, and stock for stock, its just as fast and handles just as well as the WRX.
But its a cobalt. I'm part of the crowd that feels, "I don't care how great it is, I don't want to own a Cobalt". Stupid, I know. But that's how I feel.
I'm with you on that one. We have a bunch of Cobalt, Neon, Caviler, Tiburon, etc... Wanna be racers in the area so I could never own something like that. I'm more of a muscle car fan but you can't beat a wrx for year round fun.
I agree also, cobalts are not fun in winter at all, all i know is when 20 inches of snow hits they will be callin subies to get then out the ditch lol wrx looks way better then ss interior nd exterior.
Most people dont understand the testing for the turbo cobalt was done by proffessional drivers most drivers today cant even shift right lol so the numbers would be way off.
I have driven my cazens 2011 and 2003 wrx last winter on 24+ inches on snow unplowed with easy! I dont know why there is so many ppl on here doubting the wrx i personay think that subaru has best awd from any car.
Come on people, driving in 20 and 24 inches of snow. I love my car and know it's one of if not the best handling cars in the winter but lets be realistic here on quit bs'ing yourself.
you have no idea what you are talking about. Maybe in PA you have really wet snow all the time but 20 inches of powder doesn't mean that much on the roads. And Kadir07....Grammar and spelling, Im begging you. Those two posts were painful to read
I am by no means suggesting trying to drive through a large distance of dense snow 20 inches deep. But I am saying that its possible in some situations and I have done it before. Only for about 20 yards to get out of my street and onto the main plowed street but the car was fine. Your not going to high center on powder so clearance isn't an issue in the same way it would be with dirt.
I have accually drive an wrx threw 20" of snow. No fwd can make it threw the snow like subaru wrx nd sti can, my friends mazda speed 6 gets stuck all of the time and its awd. I am pretty sure ss cobalts engine would break down in 10 inch snow. Lol
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