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    How do they get 350hp out of a 2.3 liter engine? Our STI is 305hp w/ a 2.5 liter engine.

    http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...oncepts/7.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lengthwise32 View Post
    How do they get 350hp out of a 2.3 liter engine? Our STI is 305hp w/ a 2.5 liter engine.

    http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2010/...oncepts/7.html
    Sorry but the answer is because we are getting our butts kicked.
    Unlike Subi, they have incorporated direct injection.

    http://www.ford.com/about-ford/news-...8-direct-29653
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    direct injection, slightly larger and more modern turbo. that's about it.
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    Any drawbacks to direct injection?
    Better fuel economy and/or more power sounds great.
    Why doesn't Subaru do this?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lengthwise32 View Post
    Any drawbacks to direct injection?
    Better fuel economy and/or more power sounds great.
    Why doesn't Subaru do this?

    cost to design and produce, cost to the customer/dealer to fix or repair. also if you wanted to upgrade to a larger injector later on the cost of them would be double. or triple.
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    Turbocharged Direct Injected Subaru powerplants are coming they have added it to the naturally aspirated versions. I'd also expect a new turbo when they do come making the STI produce 350hp easily.

    The turbo fiesta coming here will have 243hp I beleive not 350
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    It would be interesting to see the torque curves for the engines in question. Good area under the curve, or just a really impressive peak number?
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    The Evolution FQ400 gets 400 hp out of a 2.0L. Sorry, but as far as specific output is concerned, our Subies just aren't built for power
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    The Evolution FQ400 gets 400 hp out of a 2.0L. Sorry, but as far as specific output is concerned, our Subies just aren't built for power
    See what happens when you try and get an FQ400 to pass smog in the US. There is a reason its a UK only model. Plus they get 9mpg.

    The FQ is a has a fully built block, nothing factory about it except it come from the factory. You can make 400hp with the ej257 with money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SonicWagon View Post
    See what happens when you try and get an FQ400 to pass smog in the US
    Try to get half of our WRXs to pass smog in the US.......

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    Plus they get 9mpg.
    I certainly wouldn't want it as a daily driver....
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    Try to get half of our WRXs to pass smog in the US.......



    I certainly wouldn't want it as a daily driver....
    That's my point our subarus do pass emissions when they haven't been tampered with. The FQ's are not even legal in japan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    It would be interesting to see the torque curves for the engines in question. Good area under the curve, or just a really impressive peak number?
    both use D/I

    stock cobalt ss/tc



    stock ms3 dyno.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lengthwise32 View Post
    Taurus SHO...
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    ... from a Taurus..
    That ecoboost engine is slick. However, at 4300 lbs, that Taurus is entirely too bulky to be any fun
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    I'd take that ecoboost v6 engine in A mustang or better yet a fiesta with AWD.
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