2002 WRX (mine) VS. 2000 Camaro Z28

[Pavia]

The point that's being conveyed is that our Subies have far more in common with a Toyota Camry than with an actual rally car. "Rally-inspired" may be a bit closer to the truth.

Fair enough, however you certainly could use a production WRX in rally racing. Of course, I agree you need some cash for safety items, tires, and some suspension bits.

[RayfieldsWRX]

Fair enough, however you certainly could use a production WRX in rally racing. Of course, I agree you need some cash for safety items, tires, and some suspension bits.

Agreed!...I could use my wife's minivan in rally racing. It would be entertaining to be sure.

[JasoNeon]

I'd say your launches could be better but I'd think you should able to keep up from a roll. When I had my 04 wrx wagon (stage 2 at the time) I had a friend that had a stock 2001 z28 automatic and from a roll we were dead even up to over 120mph. We ran a few times at the track also and I'd get about 1.5 car lenght jump on him and keep it to the finish line. But, once he fed it 100hp worth of nitrous it was game over for me. Also had a friend with an 06 GTO 6 speed with intake, exhaust and a tune. From a stop I'd be ahead till the end of my 2nd gear when he'd fly by me. From a roll he could just get on and off the gas and toy with me, so stay away from those.

[zax]

The point that's being conveyed is that our Subies have far more in common with a Toyota Camry than with an actual rally car. "Rally-inspired" may be a bit closer to the truth.

I imagine that a true rally car would make for a lousy daily driver, what with notchy transmissions, individual oil containers, long suspension travel, and ultra-short gear ratios. The truth is that even a Lancer Evo RS or an STi RA is closer related to a Toyota Camry than a true rally car.
STi RA ~ $35,000 when new
Impreza WRC ~ $500,000

The price tag is that high for a reason

[mangostick]

You might be able to take him off the line if you get your launch perfect, but your not going to be able to out run him... he has a ls1 350 under his hood... putting out 305hp and about 350lbs of torque... they say that they are underated from the factory too... you'd have to do at least a turbo swap to run with him in mir stock form...

were the camaro's that much different from the t/a? The ls1 motors in the t/a's were making 350hp and 375tq ..

either way a 02 wrx is not going to phase a ls powered car. Not at a mere stage II anyway.


Long travel suspension is never a bad thing.. even for street driven cars actually, if you live in a area with rough roads I'd say its much better. Less time on bumpstops/more time with tire on ground means better handling.

[Sinister]

http://www.rally24.com/class/WRC-rally-cars-for-sale/

[nc.wiles]

I have a 1973 Monte Carlo with a built up 350 putting out around 450-500 hp (est) along with a 700R overdrive tranny with 4.11's in the rear end. If anyone knows anything about the old Monte Carlo's, they are freaking huge! For being such a big car, the thing will flat out scoot. It will get sideways when I shift into 2nd gear and break the tires loose shifting into 3rd. In the 70's the car was designed to be a "luxury sports car", mine has/had power windows and locks, air conditioning, and a few other things that weren't common on most cars in the 70's. On the performance side of the car it came factory with a 4 barrel carb., dual exhaust, and front and rear sway bars. The car does handle very well for an old "muscle" car.

Both of my cars are probably pretty close on the straights (I have not gotten a chance to run both next to each other) but night and day difference on the twisties.

The sound of a big cam in a 350 is something every car should have, in my opinion. The sound that comes from our precious boxer engine is equally amazing as well.

However there is something to be said for both cars/motors.

Long story short, whatever floats your boat.

[Pavia]

Agreed!...I could use my wife's minivan in rally racing. It would be entertaining to be sure.

There's an article in last months Grassroots Motorsports mag about a guy who entered a $500 BMW 318 in WRC Mexico and finished 3rd in class...

Great read:
http://jalopnik.com/5497042/how-a-50...k-rally-racers

[zax]

There's an article in last months Grassroots Motorsports mag about a guy who entered a $500 BMW 318 in WRC Mexico and finished 3rd in class...

must be one hell of a driver

[cjm1991]

There's an article in last months Grassroots Motorsports mag about a guy who entered a $500 BMW 318 in WRC Mexico and finished 3rd in class...

Thats an older story I read about it in Import Tuner a while ago, nevertheless its quite incredible. Its a pretty good story too.

[z32turbo]

I have a 94 Z28, which is the older less powerful LT1 engine (275hp, 325lb-ft stock). I would guess mine has about 300hp even now after some minor mods. My camaro out traps the WRX in the 1/4 by almost 7mph. Even though they don't have the traction that the WRX has. Once they get rolling they have plenty of torque and right now throttle response to be pretty quick off the line. But everybody is right about them being straight line cars. That solid axle, posi-trac, and lots of torque pretty much guarantees unpredictable power oversteer, at least with mine that's the way it is.

[06scoobyrex]

I used to have a 94 z28 as well... I've heard they are factory underated in terms of power... I ran a 13.2 in mine at 4700 ft elev (not a good launch) I had headers, full exhaust, cai, ls6 intake manifold w/ injectors, and engine management... I'm sure I could've done better but the wheelspin is crazy...