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    new guy, i got beat by mf friends stock 09 gti

    whats up guys! i just purchased my first subie. 08 wrx red, well i just bought a AEM intake and decided to see what she did against my friends 09 stock gti. we started at 40 and took off, he pulled like 3-4 car lengths on me.is this common? i dont know what the WHP ratio is on these. i;ve heard 240 and 212. also is there a way you can put the 09 turbos on us 08 to be up in that power class? if so what would i need just a tune or injectors and stuff......

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    Quote Originally Posted by scotch89 View Post
    whats up guys! i just purchased my first subie. 08 wrx red, well i just bought a AEM intake and decided to see what she did against my friends 09 stock gti. we started at 40 and took off, he pulled like 3-4 car lengths on me.is this common? i dont know what the WHP ratio is on these. i;ve heard 240 and 212. also is there a way you can put the 09 turbos on us 08 to be up in that power class? if so what would i need just a tune or injectors and stuff......
    240whp 212tq sounds waaaay off, considering your stock numbers are 224hp and 226tq AT THE CRANK.

    Sounds like you need a driver mod... those GTI's only make 211hp 207tq and weight 3100+lbs.

    your wrx traps around 94mph... that new GTI traps around 96... he should have you beat from a roll but not by 3-4 cars.

    race him from a dig lol...
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    Your probally running lean with that new intake you put on with a tune plus it takes a while to get used to subaru's notchy ass gearboxes... plus the GTI makes peak torque at 2k RPM's....

    FYI the 08 WRX has 224 to the crank and 195-200whp
    The GTI has 200 to the crank and about 160ish to the ground...
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    ok cool thanks guys for the info. ya im still geting use to this car lol. one last question. the accsses port from cobb, does that give you 12hp? my friend said once u install it, it will put u over 300. so i was just wondering.

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    your friend is a ra-tard to be blunt about it. to get those kind of numbers, with your car your gonna need at least a full turbo-back exhaust, and I doubt that will get you there, although I am not sure of the horsepower gains on the 08 accessport, I doubt that it will get you to 300 at the crank even.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scotch89 View Post
    whats up guys! i just purchased my first subie. 08 wrx red, well i just bought a AEM intake and decided to see what she did against my friends 09 stock gti. we started at 40 and took off, he pulled like 3-4 car lengths on me.is this common? i dont know what the WHP ratio is on these. i;ve heard 240 and 212. also is there a way you can put the 09 turbos on us 08 to be up in that power class? if so what would i need just a tune or injectors and stuff......
    shoulda spit out an extra couple grand for the 09, ditch the intake, and i don't see how you'll lose to the gti
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    Quote Originally Posted by scotch89 View Post
    ok cool thanks guys for the info. ya im still geting use to this car lol. one last question. the accsses port from cobb, does that give you 12hp? my friend said once u install it, it will put u over 300. so i was just wondering.
    It depends on the map on the AP, to get 300 to the crank you'd need a TBE and a diecent stage 2 tune... the 08's have a larger turbo and intercooler then the older WRX's... I have an open scource stage 1 tune made by a guy named gabedude off romraider and someone did a road dyno with this tune and claimed he gained 27hp. If that is true then stock the 06 has around 250hp to the crank and add the 27 so in thereoy I should have around 276hp to the crank plus whatever my CBE adds on (if any)...
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    Quote Originally Posted by sccoby823 View Post
    your friend is a ra-tard to be blunt about it. to get those kind of numbers, with your car your gonna need at least a full turbo-back exhaust, and I doubt that will get you there, although I am not sure of the horsepower gains on the 08 accessport, I doubt that it will get you to 300 at the crank even.
    Cobb claims 290bhp 340tq on the 07 with stage 2, wouldn't the 09 be higher?

    Then again... friday night i ran 09 COBB stg2 and pulled him by a car or so from a slow roll (10-15mph)
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    the 09 is higher yes, i was just saying idk about the 08 casue the 08 is rated at 224 and i wouldnt think that just stage 2 would get him 300 at the crank
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    Quote Originally Posted by scotch89 View Post
    ok cool thanks guys for the info. ya im still geting use to this car lol. one last question. the accsses port from cobb, does that give you 12hp? my friend said once u install it, it will put u over 300. so i was just wondering.
    Punch your friend in the face and tell him he is never to bring up auto modification ever again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by brfatal View Post
    Punch your friend in the face and tell him he is never to bring up auto modification ever again.
    I say in the throat!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06scoobyrex View Post
    I say in the throat!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by brfatal View Post
    Punch your friend in the face and tell him he is never to bring up auto modification ever again.
    **** that... kick him in the **** so he doesn't produce more idiots indoctrinated by his stupidity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06scoobyrex View Post
    FYI the 08 WRX has 224 to the crank and 195-200whp
    The GTI has 200 to the crank and about 160ish to the ground...
    The AWD WRX loses around 25 hp to losses, and the FWD GTI loses 40? Seems counterintuitive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    The AWD WRX loses around 25 hp to losses, and the FWD GTI loses 40? Seems counterintuitive.
    Well I figured that since the 06-07 are underated in power the 08's are probally too... just like when they claimed that the 06 only had a 3hp difference from the 2.0L WRX's yet there is a 30whp difference...
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