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    Like any turbo vehicle, you aren't burning a lot of fuel unless you're in the throttle. My friend's 7.3 liter Excursion 2wd gets 17 city, 22 highway on a chip with 160+hp over stock. Compare that to my Dodge Ram 4x4 with the Hemi that gets 10 city, 14 hwy.

    Make a few WOT runs and that mileage drops. You can't change physics while you're shoving 7000+ lbs down the road at absurd velocity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John M View Post
    You can't change physics while you're shoving 7000+ lbs down the road at absurd velocity.
    This comment gave me the image of a truck flying by....with speed lines in the background. I think I read too many japanese comics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by John M View Post
    Like any turbo vehicle, you aren't burning a lot of fuel unless you're in the throttle. My friend's 7.3 liter Excursion 2wd gets 17 city, 22 highway on a chip with 160+hp over stock. Compare that to my Dodge Ram 4x4 with the Hemi that gets 10 city, 14 hwy.

    Make a few WOT runs and that mileage drops. You can't change physics while you're shoving 7000+ lbs down the road at absurd velocity.
    This is what I was getting at. Hwy mileage is easy, it doesn't take much fuel to maintain speed. It's when you start racing around from 0-whatever at WOT. It's gonna use a massive amount of fuel. Even stop and go / traffic or whatever, it's gonna take a lot more fuel to start a 7000lb truck moving.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lengthwise32 View Post
    This is what I was getting at. Hwy mileage is easy, it doesn't take much fuel to maintain speed. It's when you start racing around from 0-whatever at WOT. It's gonna use a massive amount of fuel. Even stop and go / traffic or whatever, it's gonna take a lot more fuel to start a 7000lb truck moving.
    The same laws apply to our cars. At full throttle we are shoving massive amounts of fuel into our engines. Odds are our cars are probably only getting a few miles to the gallon at full throttle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainrex View Post
    The same laws apply to our cars. At full throttle we are shoving massive amounts of fuel into our engines. Odds are our cars are probably only getting a few miles to the gallon at full throttle.
    Yea, I'm quite aware, but w/ a car at 1/2 the weight, we're gonna use half the fuel overall based on the same driving style. Plus I love a nimble quick car!

    I had to drive a F350 quad cab long bed as my work truck before and I hated it. Turbo diesel w/ a big engine, it was still slow, heavy, noisy, and annoying.
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    I'd never race a trophy truck either.

    Especially Robby Gordon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lengthwise32 View Post
    Yea, I'm quite aware, but w/ a car at 1/2 the weight, we're gonna use half the fuel overall based on the same driving style. Plus I love a nimble quick car!
    You would think so, but that's not the case. Most WRX's will achieve about 27mpg tops. A vehicle twice the size and weight achieving 22mpg with over twice the engine is quite impressive. If we used that technology on our smaller cars, imagine what mileage they would achieve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGimpreza View Post
    This comment gave me the image of a truck flying by....with speed lines in the background. I think I read too many japanese comics...
    It's almost like that when you're a passenger. Imagine a racing schoolbus, only white, with a bumper sticker that says "WE BRAKE FOR NOBODY" (Spaceballs reference there) and that's his Excursion.

    Stock turbo diesel trucks are slow, running in the 16s or slower. It's only after mods that they come alive, and it's easy to take 3-4 whole seconds off their 1/4 mile time.

    Like I said, he gets 17 city. That's normal, in-town driving that includes stop and go. The only time mileage suffers if he makes WOT runs and that'll happen in any car. Why do you think my truck gets 9 mpg? It's because of my foot!
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    Quote Originally Posted by John M View Post
    It's almost like that when you're a passenger. Imagine a racing schoolbus, only white, with a bumper sticker that says "WE BRAKE FOR NOBODY" (Spaceballs reference there) and that's his Excursion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainrex View Post
    You would think so, but that's not the case. Most WRX's will achieve about 27mpg tops. A vehicle twice the size and weight achieving 22mpg with over twice the engine is quite impressive. If we used that technology on our smaller cars, imagine what mileage they would achieve.
    Yeah diesels are a whole different ball game... just wait and see what people are gonna be doing to the new 2.0 diesel imprezas... its gonna be a whole new era in the subaru world!!!!
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    big diesel trucks should never be underestimated. modern setups with the usual bolt ons and a pro tune are beastly. easily 1000 wtq. mid 13s @ 100 weighing 8000 lbs is nasty. after you lose to them in a race they can tow you and 5 more cars home when they break.
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    The way to get the big diesels is in the corners. I egged one of those monsters into a high speed corner in an on-ramp and he almost lost it. The wrx will out corner it at speed, that's the game you need to go for, not drag racing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ed209 View Post
    The way to get the big diesels is in the corners. I egged one of those monsters into a high speed corner in an on-ramp and he almost lost it. The wrx will out corner it at speed, that's the game you need to go for, not drag racing.
    yeah its like all these people in their muscle cars always trying to race me at lights. they are only good for straight line power then they loose in the twisty territory.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 06scoobyrex View Post
    yeah its like all these people in their muscle cars always trying to race me at lights. they are only good for straight line power then they loose in the twisty territory.
    The problem is becoming less the car not being able to negotiate corners as much as the 50+ demographic who buy them not knowing jack squat about what those un-strait things are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 02radioflyer View Post
    The problem is becoming less the car not being able to negotiate corners as much as the 50+ demographic who buy them not knowing jack squat about what those un-strait things are.
    very true... there are still people out there that think just cause they have a V8 they will win every race they get in. When I talk to my dad about Subarus he looks at me like i'm talking out of my ass on how much power and performance these cars are capable of... but thats okay let the old timers stay back in their time.
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