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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarsman View Post
    i just like auto, its easier, do you guys think it could handle close to that of a wrx with the right sus mods? another thing i am worried about is the fact that pontiac is dead so parts will prob go up in the future..
    right now i have a cougar and my buddy has a 98 impreza 2.5rs, its a nice car. we both took the same curve, i took it at 52 or so going through the curve, i could feel the car almost breaking loose and he took it at 56 or so and all four tires where squealing... i have better tires than him but i thought the awd of subaru would allow him to go faster through the curve..... whats up with that?
    im thinking he just has ****ty tires, i think they are nexens and i have falkens
    As said before AWD does not equal better handling! you get better traction in adverse conditions with AWD, but the same 4 tires are in contact with the road just like any other car. Center of gravity, weight distribution, suspension, and tire width all have factors in skidpad numbers (especially the last o ne). If you really want handling characteristics, look at slalom speeds -- better indication IMO. Regardless, remember that the best-handling cars in the world are dominantly RWD.
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    Crappy tires on a 12 year old suspension might have something to do with the low speeds in the corners. Besides drivers ability and the fact the RS wasnt a high speed salomn contender from the start.
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    Quote Originally Posted by t3ch View Post
    The WRX ended up pulling in front despite having a rather sub-par interior. It can hold all of my gear, it is almost as fast as the GTO (and can also go in snow/rain), handle better, and will get MUCH better gas mileage.
    fixed for ya

    Top Gear loves the Evo for the track, but even Clarkson admits the WRX is better for the street. They also voted the Subaru Legacy (along with the Ford Mondeo) as car of the year a couple years ago...
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    Doesnt awd help when you wheel starts to slip but under hard cornering if all 4 wheels are screaming i dt its really going to help that much... in your guys opinions if i dropped money into the sus setup of a gto could it handle really good? and you say the best handling cars are rwd why? you go to fast around a corner and the back end comes out...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavia View Post
    fixed for ya
    I wasn't going to let a .2 difference make a huge impact on my decision.

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    Any time somebody says they like the WRX but think the interior is too plain I can't help but wonder if they've ever heard of the Legacy GT -- at least through 09.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cougarsman View Post
    Doesnt awd help when you wheel starts to slip but under hard cornering if all 4 wheels are screaming i dt its really going to help that much... in your guys opinions if i dropped money into the sus setup of a gto could it handle really good? and you say the best handling cars are rwd why? you go to fast around a corner and the back end comes out...
    Yes all 4 wheels slipping your probably **** outta luck, but a better chance of control with AWD then RWD. The disadvantage the goat has is the 3600 lb. curb weight. Yes, springs, shocks, sways will help. As far as the same amount of money put into each car, idk.

    Just cause you're going to fast around the corner doesn't mean the rear comes, more than likely understeer. Letting off the gas 'cuz you're going too fast, oversteer. Think about the fastest race cars, F1, LeMans, Indy, Nascar, DTM all RWD.
    If you know how to control oversteer, understeer, etc. and you know where the edge is, RWD will win.

    I have decided that now that I can afford to do so, Rex will be track only so I don't have to worry about smog. So if I buy a GTO or CTS-V (04-07) or whatever I decide on it will be the DD. Just cheaper to make more legal HP in CA at least. You know... bragging rights.

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    Might as well take this opportunity to post some more car porn (or is it PRON?...). Heres a visual comparison of some of the dimensions and quality discussed. I have the Cobb AP for the Subaru and a similiar device for the GTO, so I'll try to do some 0-60 comparisons and some 1/4mile times. Not the best because it's calculated but, whatever.

    Anyway, here's some views to enjoy. Keep in mind, both cars are modified, especially the Subaru. Especially the Subaru


    Couple shots of my two cars together (actually three, because my Toyota pickup is in the background )

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    Here's the GTO engine bay. Got to love a V8! Easy to work on and damn sexy...
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    Here's the Subaru engine bay. Quite different looking, but still beautiful. I also find this engine easy to work on (believe it or not). I rank both cars as garage mechanic friendly.
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    The GTO's interior is awesome. Very comfortable, with a lot of features in a 2006 car that wasn't offered on an Impreza until 2008.
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    My WRX TR interior was functional, but lacking. This STI Limited interior is nice and compares well to the stock GTO interior.
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    The GTO's backseat is the same leather bucket seat as the front. The most comfortable backseat I've ever sat in... IF you can get to them . There is about 8-10" of room to squeeze through on that 2-door coupe to get through first. As the driver, it's not my problem though
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    The Subaru rear seat (in the sedan for pre-08) are for looks or children only...lol.
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    Here's the comparison of the two trunks. The Subaru trunk is obviously larger, even with the subwoofer and amps in the back. The GTO trunk is smaller (because DOT reqs forced the fuel tank behind the rear seat). It's usable for two golfbags or a weekend trip with your main squeeze, but that's about it.

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    06 GTO M6 Quicksilver, SLP 455 Bobcat, LS7 Clutch w/ SS line (RPM tune:373rwhp/373rwtq)
    07 WRX TR M5 Garnet Red Pearl w/ Straight PPGs and Cusco front LSD (Agile tune:307whp/343wtq)

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    Pavia - Is your STI the limited version, and you put a wing on it? Or did you get a vanilla STI and put the limited seats in it?

    Also - I like in your engine bay the use of hydrolics. Was that an option I missed somewhere else? When I was putting my downpipe on my WRX it would have been a little easier if the engine prop wasn't in my way.

    Otherwise - my "other car" is a 2006 Ford Freestar Minivan so you have my very jealous. I bought my wife a Mini so she could have a fun car too, but I never drive it.
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    Wow, that is the sexiest color sti ive seen to date. Is it a stock paint color for the 07 sti limited? Very pretty. Sorry this has nothing to do with OP. Id take an sti over gto anyday tho.

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    Thanks!

    It's actually a WRX TR will a whole lot of $$$ thrown into it. The only STI item I don't have is the HIDs. I probably would have saved money by buying an STI, but at least I had fun modding it.

    The hood dampers were added (Tein). The color is stock OEM for that year (Garnet Red Pearl), but didn't come on the STI.
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    Ahh i see. Well it fooled me, i thought it was an sti. But definately worth it if you ask me, very clean look
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pavia View Post
    Might as well take this opportunity to post some more car porn (or is it PRON?...). Heres a visual comparison of some of the dimensions and quality discussed. I have the Cobb AP for the Subaru and a similiar device for the GTO, so I'll try to do some 0-60 comparisons and some 1/4mile times. Not the best because it's calculated but, whatever.
    I'm guessing (given your WRX whp) that your soob would smoke your GTO to 60. But the 1/4 mile+ might be any man's guess given that the GTO is rumored to trap in at upwards of 106-107 MPH (stock) nevermind the bobcat package. I'm kinda curious to see the result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zax View Post
    I'm guessing (given your WRX whp) that your soob would smoke your GTO to 60. But the 1/4 mile+ might be any man's guess given that the GTO is rumored to trap in at upwards of 106-107 MPH (stock) nevermind the bobcat package. I'm kinda curious to see the result.
    As am I. I must admit one thing though, as far as looks I prefer the WRX by quite a bit. I don't know what it is, but I just-- don't like the GTO in the looks department. Love the stock strait line on it though.
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