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This is a discussion on Stock 335 vs STi within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by yass And that was exactly my result on highway. He actually gave up after I passed. Like ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by yass View Post
    And that was exactly my result on highway. He actually gave up after I passed. Like I said, there is no turbo lag in 335 so the smoothness might not make one feel the snap back effect but it's defintely fast.
    Sure - a STOCK STI. But what percentage of WRX/STI's are running around stock? How about the percentage of 335's running around stock?

    In my mind a 0-60 time of 4.x or lower is FAST, and in the 5.x range is QUICK. To put things in perspective there are multiple cars available which can run 0-60 in 3.x which makes them VERY FAST in my eyes.

    I bought a VERY FAST car because my WRX was already FAST and the BMW was only QUICK.
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    I dunno Micah, in the end I think my BMW was fast and the wrx is quick. I know my experience is outdated but I doubt that has changed. 115 in that car was not comfortable for a few minutes, it was comfortable for an hour.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post
    I dunno Micah, in the end I think my BMW was fast and the wrx is quick. I know my experience is outdated but I doubt that has changed. 115 in that car was not comfortable for a few minutes, it was comfortable for an hour.
    You did 115mph for an hour? I'm very surprised.

    (fuel consumption - law enforcement - heat due to continued load)

    If you read my post you will notice I specified MY WRX is FAST, and this was based upon a 0-60 time. I specified the terms - 3.x is very fast, 4.x is fast, and 5.x is quick. What are you basing your "fast" on?

    I've lined up with 335i/135i in my WRX - had no problem ditching them, and I don't "launch". If my WRX was stock, it would obviously be a different story. But what percentage of 135 and 335 are getting modded compared to the percentage of modded WRX and STI? Furthermore, how much power can be gained for $500, $1500, $3000?

    The BMW is a completely different (upscale) class of car. Opinions are like sphincters....
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    Testing
    Every GM car and truck is subjected to certain durability test schedules, and Corvettes go through all of them. Then the fun begins. Corvette has a well-earned reputation for being a car that you can drive out of the showroom and onto a racetrack with little or no modification. To protect that reputation, Corvette engineers do things to the car that would tighten the sphincter muscle of the average driver. All Corvettes, not just the Z06, undergo 250 miles of full-bore autocross testing, 24 hours of road-course testing at competition speeds, and a grueling wide-open throttle test that has the car run at its 175-mph top speed until the gas tank runs dry about 30 minutes later. No question, the Z06 comes up as a very special version of a very special car. Somewhere, Zora Arkus-Duntov is smiling.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah View Post
    Testing
    Every GM car and truck is subjected to certain durability test schedules, and Corvettes go through all of them. Then the fun begins. Corvette has a well-earned reputation for being a car that you can drive out of the showroom and onto a racetrack with little or no modification. To protect that reputation, Corvette engineers do things to the car that would tighten the sphincter muscle of the average driver. All Corvettes, not just the Z06, undergo 250 miles of full-bore autocross testing, 24 hours of road-course testing at competition speeds, and a grueling wide-open throttle test that has the car run at its 175-mph top speed until the gas tank runs dry about 30 minutes later. No question, the Z06 comes up as a very special version of a very special car. Somewhere, Zora Arkus-Duntov is smiling.


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    Well, if someone did that I can say that it didn't get hot at all. Just making its stride it seemed. That was with >100K on the clock. It got 20mpg highway at 85. Car was an 82 straight 6 3.3l and was about 20 years old (I don't do that now). There was plenty of gear left and the car was designed for it. There isn't much of anything in some parts of eastern OR BTW.

    Oh - car ended up rusting to death with all major mechanicals working.
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    I'd rather mod a Z06 and be ahead of the game financially. Granted, the ZR-1 has a warranty - but for the extra 30k, I would be able to build up an engine, blow it, then build another - and still have money left over for upgraded brakes and suspension.

    Some people are happy to leave their cars stock, others are willing to mod. IMHO - Stock is safe but boring, modded is risky but exciting. Being stock also means when you pull up to a light, anyone who knows the performance numbers will be able to judge the car fairly well... with a modded vehicle, it's a tougher call to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah View Post
    You did 115mph for an hour? I'm very surprised.

    (fuel consumption - law enforcement - heat due to continued load)

    If you read my post you will notice I specified MY WRX is FAST, and this was based upon a 0-60 time. I specified the terms - 3.x is very fast, 4.x is fast, and 5.x is quick. What are you basing your "fast" on?

    I've lined up with 335i/135i in my WRX - had no problem ditching them, and I don't "launch". If my WRX was stock, it would obviously be a different story. But what percentage of 135 and 335 are getting modded compared to the percentage of modded WRX and STI? Furthermore, how much power can be gained for $500, $1500, $3000?

    The BMW is a completely different (upscale) class of car. Opinions are like sphincters....
    I think we posted at the same time. Just saying fast comes much later than 60mph though and good roads don't have stop lights.

    The Corvette is very appealing. Like you said it is all opinions and my personal leaning right now is toward something approaching go-cart weight. I suppose I'm kind of stuck on some older cars too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WilliamG View Post
    Me confused, too... Yes a 335i will take an STI on the highway. From a dig, even a lightly modded STI will murder a 335. The 3-series in general is very tricky to get off the line.
    Coming from two 335i's I'll say that's not the case at all with the 6AT tranny. It's a bit faster than the manual 335i and a breeze to launch well stock and even tuned.

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    Dood are you serious with this? LOL... listen each driver is different.

    As far as ICE goes, NYC does have icy roads and i haven't skidded out once with my 08 - the car kept it movin safely. My driving impression of cars will be different then that of yours.

    And the OP WASN'T talkin about the "xi" - it was the "i"



    Quote Originally Posted by liljon350 View Post
    ive driven both the 335i and 335xi and they both handle extremely well...also the xi is almost as good as my wrx in the snow...and what car is good on ice?
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    as far as dry weather handling goes, the 335i is much better then my wrx(non sti)...and my **** slips and slides on ice in the winter if im not careful

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    Agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Micah View Post
    Some people are happy to leave their cars stock, others are willing to mod. IMHO - Stock is safe but boring, modded is risky but exciting. Being stock also means when you pull up to a light, anyone who knows the performance numbers will be able to judge the car fairly well... with a modded vehicle, it's a tougher call to make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micah View Post


    I would pay $8995 not to have that stupid plastic window on my hood. 600rwhp would be a bonus...
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    Quote Originally Posted by spt wrx 2k8 View Post
    Dood are you serious with this? LOL... listen each driver is different.

    As far as ICE goes, NYC does have icy roads and i haven't skidded out once with my 08 - the car kept it movin safely. My driving impression of cars will be different then that of yours.

    And the OP WASN'T talkin about the "xi" - it was the "i"

    he's right. NO car is good on ice. You would need some chains to move and stop safely on ice....if that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrx0131 View Post
    he's right. NO car is good on ice. You would need some chains to move and stop safely on ice....if that.
    Ice means I stay home...

    Even if my car doesn't lose traction, that 1999 Chrysler Minivan with bald tires driven by someone on their cellphone is going to surely plow into me...
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