This is a discussion on Audi A4 1.8 "300hp man!" within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by jeremy96gase MSN's setup is good, but they don't always have list everything correctly. MSN also does not ...
seems like a lot of people don't know the difference between bhp, chp, and whp.
I have a buddy who just picked up an 04' gli. He talks about how sweet it is all the time and how he wants to mod it. He tried telling me with an intake, turboback, and a chip those cars run 12's. hahaha I just had to prove him wrong.
I think I'll take my spare tire out, for weight reduction. I'm scared.
ummm yea low mid 14 seconds on stock turbo.... ok grip off the line, but not gonna get enough wheelspin to outlaunch the Soob
2011 SWP 5 door WRX LIMITED
Nameless axleback, Cobb AP, Viper 5901
just a few things:
the B5 A4 came with 2 different hp ratings for the 1.8t. early motors had 150bhp and the later model with the ko3s turbo had 170bhp.
now, there are MULTIPLE, and I mean MULTIPLE A4s running around with over 300whp, let alone 300chp, but it does not sound like this guy is one of them.
the GIAC chip will give 50hp and something like 80tq (max), i have one, its valid. the intake is bull****, on a stock motor an aftermarket intake does nothing but magnify the sound of the turbo and DV. an FMIC will also do nothing too impressive except for keep IATs low when running high boost for extended periods of time (aka on track days).
my dad has a cobb re-mapped 265 and there is no comparison between his car and my a4 (i have maybe 220bhp and 230-240tq, max) mods are GIAC chip, 3" cat delete, 2.5" straight through exhaust...pretty basic.
this A4 owner sounds like a moron, and makes us all generally look stupid.
for the record, most A4 owners bought their cars for the comfort and class, not for the performance. however, like i said, there are many turning out huge numbers, and many which blow the doors off of stage II-III S4s, let alone stock ones. also, there are many which have owned or currently do own wrx's, so most can appreciate them
How do you get more tq (80?) over hp (50) with just a chip on a 1.8 engine??? That's the primary reason the 2.5 engine WRXs and STis make more torque than us 2.0 engine guys. I could probably make similar hp numbers as a 2006 WRX with my 2005 WRX, but I'll never have the torque that he does.
I don't doubt there are some fast A4s, for sure. As far as being a sports car performance minded car from the factory, the A4 is obviously no match for it's bigger brother, the S4. My friend's GIAC chipped B5 S4 supposedly is pushing over 400tq easy. 2.7 twin turbo V6... It's heavier, yes, but I am not kidding that thing could probably take many STis and WRXs even highly tuned ones...
What year A4 do you have? And what's a re-mapped 265? lol jk do you mean a WRX with a Stage 1 map from Cobb, otherwise stock? Just curious because your mods are similar to this A4 guy I'm workin on....
Not sure precisely where the tq and hp comes from. Fuel injection is changed and stock boost jumps from 10 psi to 18 (for the AEB motor which I have.) Other than the chip I have the exhaust and an aftermarket diverter valve. Short shift kit and decent brakes but those obviously have nothing to really to do with performance.
A chipped, otherwise stock s4 has 300hp, don't think its putting out 400tq. Many stage III s4s barely put that down (to the wheels) tune and supporting mod dependant of course.
And yes, its a cobb stage 1 that my dad has.
The a4 was not performance driven from the factory of course, its slow as hell lol. But the potential is certainly there. Like I said, you shouldn't have much trouble with this clown
My friend's 2000 S4 was only rated at like 260hp and 300tq from the factory. He's "Stage 2"-ish from GIAC, with a Stasis built tranny, lightweight clutch and stage 2 or 3 clutch, I forget. According to him, he's making 400tq and about 310hp. That's close to 300 to the wheels torque. All dyno sheets point to a 280-300+ wtq numbers, and that really makes up the difference when you he's weighing in at 3700lbs I think. The only car I've been in that's felt faster is probably my friend (Sinister)'s highly modded 06 WRX with a Pro-tune. That's not counting the 2001 M5 I test drove... *drools*..... and his WRX is putting like 250hp to the wheels, on a very low reading dyno. I would like to see his WRX vs my other friend's S4.
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What year WRX is that Stage 1 map on that you're referring to? That makes a lot of difference because I don't know if you're talking about the 02-05 engine, or the 06+ engine...