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Reply With QuoteSome interesting data that I put together in a prior argument like this a while ago regarding 60 foots.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...hg8xTZa5VQUlaw
This is a discussion on 05 STI vs WS6 TA within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Originally Posted by LilJohn pushed or pulled? hmmmmmm why not both? its much easier to overpower your drive wheels in ...
Your thinking is somewhat flawed my friend. While all those cars are indeed great cars and have AWD, you are actually LOSING power when you allocate it to all 4 wheels instead of just 2. You have more drivetrain power loss.Originally Posted by LilJohn
In addition to loss in the drivetrain, the transmission components for an AWD car are more numerous and thus will also need to be accelerated (I don't know how much this actually matters in the long run, but the engine is having to spin up additional shafts, gears, and other components. Even if the power is provided hydraulically, there will be friction loss in the hydraulic power system). All the rotational mass of these components can have the same effect as trying to run with ankle weights. Sure, you can do it, but you can't move your legs as fast because of the additional momentum.
Some interesting data that I put together in a prior argument like this a while ago regarding 60 foots.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?k...hg8xTZa5VQUlaw
I've outrun a 2004 M3 dig and roll, roll run was 2 cars. I pulled one of the M roadsters by a length in my old SRT-4. Now I don't think my gear shifting abilities are any better than the other guy so don't give the excuss it must have been the other guys moms car so he didn't know how to drive it.
First off, it's spelled "excuse". Second, I'm glad you feel better about yourself because you beat a 2004 M3. How many times did you do this? Just curious, because we can both sit here all day and throw anecdotal evidence at each other like this:
YouTube - BMW E46 ///M3 vs Subaru STi Spec C
YouTube - E46 M3 versus MY04WRX STi
YouTube - e46 m3 vs 2007 sti
YouTube - Modded E36 M3 VS Impreza STI Drag Race
That is very intriguing... do you mind breaking it down into layman's terms though? Sorry
1. Thanxs four tha spelle ck
2. Me 2
3. Twice in one night
In all seriousness lundholm08 the videos prove nothing and me claiming I beat one proves nothing. I'm just stating what happened in my encounters and would not come on this site trying throw around false information. If I win great for me and if I loose I admit defeat. There is no shame in that, it's happened before and I know it will happen again.
It was just interesting to see the variance in 60 foot times between AWD vehicles which in theory should perform better, and those that aren't.
What cars have you lost to? Out of curiousity...
Your copy and paste was a good attempt...but it doesnt prove anything.
Equal cars (335's per se) the AWD will put down slighltly less power due to drivetrain loss if the entire engine, turbo, and ECU is the same between them....no one will or could argue that.
That still doesnt prove your point through.
0-60 faster then your first sexual experience.
"You've come far, and though you're far from the end
You don't mind where you are, cause you know where you've been"
agreed your logic is flawed as is the horrible 12th grade physic lesson
RayfieldsWRX - "You like the feel of torque steer? Interesting"
jd92677 - "I like the idea of mashing the gas and not knowing which way the car will go."
04 SRT-4 626whp SOLD.
04 STi 13.3@102 stock. SOLD
04 SRT4 400whp DD build in progress
LS3 vette (My bro's car) just havin fun.
S/C 04 cobra ,replaced my doors shortly after as this car was highly modded.
LS1 camaro ,don't know mods but held my own against him.
I'll run anything just for kick's, like I said you win some you loose some. In all honesty the only reason I posted originally was because I was supprised to have outrun the WS6 TA from a roll, I really thought the outcome would be different. That just goes to prove on the street's alot of elements come into play wich affect the outcome.
That's a good point about the equal cars like 335i vs 335xi, the xi having more drivetrain loss. But hell, I live in Colorado so you know I'd take the 335xi. Hence the reason I have my WRX :-)
My point has only gotten to this point because someone said that the Trans Am would lose because it's heavier (144lbs more) and RWD. I only said that having RWD was not basis for a complete disqualification of being a powerful and capable car.
So, all I'm saying is a 300hp STi puts what, 250 to wheels? And a 335hp Trans Am probably puts, what, 300hp to the wheels? Maybe a little less? Still more than the STi...
For acceleration from 0 to an arbitrary speed, the AWD car will most likely win because it has a better traction availability (less traction demand on each wheel means that the power is spread more evenly, so slippage and loss of traction is less likely). As soon as you get out of a limited traction situation, the car with the least transmission loss will win.
I agree. One time I beat a Dodge Charger Daytona. I thought I was doomed for trying, but the trick of it was that we were in a little twisty canyon kinda, and I could whip around the corners better.
Another story, kinda funny...I was on the highway when all of a sudden I saw two cars come flying up behind me, so I started to gun it. As they got closer I could hear the blow off valve on the STi...but as they flew past me, it was a Mustang Cobra that was well in front of the STi. I only know it was a Cobra because he took the same exit I did, and then he started ****ing with me lol. Must've been one of those "kill ricer" types, I don't know... But man that Mustang could fly... what do they have like 360hp+?
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