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This is a discussion on 08 civic si w/bolts on vs 04 stage 2 within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; Are we talking about an sti or wrx? Yes, their are some very fast FI hondas out there. But this ...

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    Are we talking about an sti or wrx?

    Yes, their are some very fast FI hondas out there. But this op says w/ bolt ons...ie Intake, exhaust, pulleys, etc.

    When a stage 2 wrx has intake, tbe, and some sort of tuning or reflash.

    Im just saying the stage 2 will take any bolt on honda.... as long as the bolt ons dont include turbo or SC.. cause thous are truly not bolt ons. Find me a 280whp honda w/ only bolt ons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04ST_rex View Post
    Are we talking about an sti or wrx?

    Yes, their are some very fast FI hondas out there. But this op says w/ bolt ons...ie Intake, exhaust, pulleys, etc.

    When a stage 2 wrx has intake, tbe, and some sort of tuning or reflash.

    Im just saying the stage 2 will take any bolt on honda.... as long as the bolt ons dont include turbo or SC.. cause thous are truly not bolt ons. Find me a 280whp honda w/ only bolt ons.
    well they arn't welded on are they? so what if they swap in a engine thats stock? i'm lost....
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    Bolt-on

    Not touching the internals of the motor or trans. If you FI a honda, I would hope, you would build the motor>>> if not you might beat a wrx once or twice, as well as a STI. But bolt ons are bolt ons. I've taken my wrx from stock(184whp) to Stage ?(286whp protuned) with a stock muffler(axleback), intake, and bcs. I have recently changed the intake, cbe, and alot more lil stuff.

    ....and I've owned two different hondas, and a DSM.

    Changing a motor is one thing. But to me bolt ons don't include ITB's or turbos on a n/a motor. Once you touch the internals it's know a build.... noo....
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    i like racing these k20 hatches with slicks @ my local track...and loosing badly after 1st lol.... and i mean loose badly lol. stg2 06'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 04ST_rex View Post
    Find me a 280whp honda w/ only bolt ons.
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    Im just saying the stage 2 will take any bolt on honda.

    Find me a 220whp 4 banger N/A subaru? kthxbye

    Comparing apples to oranges. . .

    Don't be so stubborn. Power isn't the only thing that matters.

    How about weight?
    How about factoring in drivetrain loss?
    How about gear ratios?
    How about powerband?
    How about grip/putting it to the ground?
    How about the biggest factor, the driver.
    I could go on for days. . .


    Just because you have more power doesn't mean you're faster.


    I love how people knock hondas. People have been tinkering with them before most of you were even born.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Subie do V2.0 View Post
    Find me a 220whp 4 banger N/A subaru? kthxbye

    Comparing apples to oranges. . .

    Don't be so stubborn. Power isn't the only thing that matters.

    How about weight?
    How about factoring in drivetrain loss?
    How about gear ratios?
    How about powerband?
    How about grip/putting it to the ground?
    How about the biggest factor, the driver.
    I could go on for days. . .


    Just because you have more power doesn't mean you're faster.


    I love how people knock hondas. People have been tinkering with them before most of you were even born.
    well with my 05 v6 6 speed accord, from 25 roll i raced a I/H/E and kproed rsx-s. by end of third gear i was aobut 1.5 cars ahead. and fourth gear i started really pulling hard.

    and when i raced a stock sti from 45 roll, i pulled about a car until 80 mph.

    considering stage 2 wrx and sti are close, it should be very close race

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2002scoobyrex View Post

    and when i raced a stock sti from 45 roll, i pulled about a car until 80 mph.

    I don't believe that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gprwrx View Post
    I don't believe that.
    +1. No way.

    2005 honda accord V6 had 240 hp and only 212 lb-ft torque at the crank. Lets be generous and say that's 210whp.

    Lets say the STI puts down 240whp. Both cars have 6-speeds, both cars weight about the same 3300lbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gprwrx
    I don't believe that.
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    +1. No way.

    2005 honda accord V6 had 240 hp and only 212 lb-ft torque at the crank. Lets be generous and say that's 210whp.

    Lets say the STI puts down 240whp. Both cars have 6-speeds, both cars weight about the same 3300lbs.
    Maybe the STi driver sucks or didn't know he was racing
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    A stage 2 base wrx and a I/RH/E SI from a roll will be a drivers race from a roll. I've been there and have done that..... The SI with those mods are good for 200-210 whp. The wrx is good for 225-235 whp and the wrx weighs in a little more obviously being AWD.

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    Agreed....

    This thread needs to die....

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    Quote Originally Posted by idipskoalmint View Post
    Maybe the STi driver sucks or didn't know he was racing
    well the thing is its my brother who i raced. and maybe its just that my accord is freak or something, lol but it will pull away from tl type s's aswell. and when my sti was stock, i drove that and raced a tl-s from 45 roll, and he walked me.

    but i promise u, i shat all over stock sti's with an accord. everybody always underestimates the grocery getter accord, but there are people who trap 100 stock and 101 with just cai.

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    and yes i know how to drive, and i do love to beat the **** out of my cars lol. full throttle shifting ftw

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