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This is a discussion on stg1 bugeye vs 90's m3?? within the Comparison: WRX vs World forums, part of the Community - Meet other Enthusiasts category; ok, so last friday night on the way home, I got beside a mid 90's or so m3. I don't ...

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    stg1 bugeye vs 90's m3??

    ok, so last friday night on the way home, I got beside a mid 90's or so m3. I don't know bmw's very well, but from what i can tell by looking at pictures on google, it was a 92 or newer m3. we played around a little before we actually took off, but we went from about 75 or so up to around 110mph. I expected to get killlled, as i only have a cobb stage1 flash and a catback exhaust, but I pulled dead even with him up to about 110 when i let off. we did it twice, and it was the same both times..... is this normal for a bmw of that year???

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    yes, the E30 M3's dont have a huge amount of engine, but due to the fact that thay are basicly a homogulated rally car it weighs about 2700 pounds and the suspension is dialed in... he'd run you in the twisties.
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    That's a surprising outcome. The E36 M3's I-6 has pretty good top end. It was probably an automatic. I edged out an E36 M3 automatic convertible to about 80-90 MPH once, I was stock. However, a manual walked me from about 60 to 100 MPH.
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    If it was an E30, then that sounds about right.

    If it was an E36 then it was likely an auto.

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    it was definately the e36 then, that's exactly what it looked like

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    Yeah, probably an auto E36.

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    M3s tend to be strong cars if treated well and maintained.

    A friend of mine has about 4 '95 M3s the first year for the e36 M3 in the states. Even his stock daily driver can pull away from me at stage one...

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    ahhh, well maybe this one wasnt in the best shape? The exterior was very clean and had stock exhaust, so i'm guessing nothing had been done to it, maybe it just had a ton of miles on it... either way, i was really happy afterwards haha

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    One of my best friends has a 99 E36 and I've seem him walk a stage 2 bugeye. Then he supercharged it and made a hawkeye STi look like a Caravan . E36's are pretty fast even w/o FI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TRM1305 View Post
    One of my best friends has a 99 E36 and I've seem him walk a stage 2 bugeye. Then he supercharged it and made a hawkeye STi look like a Caravan . E36's are pretty fast even w/o FI.

    My stage2 + protune has never had a problem with them from a dig or a roll. But then again they do not respond well to mod n/a mods. I wouldn't dare run a boosted one though.
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    i got this from wikipedia, so hopefully it's true, but it says the e36 only had 240hp, which should not be a problem for a stage one wrx, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HxcJohnny View Post
    i got this from wikipedia, so hopefully it's true, but it says the e36 only had 240hp, which should not be a problem for a stage one wrx, right?
    Remember that the E36 is NA, meaning a different (possibly flatter) torque curve. Also, less drivetrain losses. (AWD versus RWD)

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    Quote Originally Posted by RayfieldsWRX View Post
    Remember that the E36 is NA, meaning a different (Incredibly flat) torque curve. Also, less drivetrain losses. (AWD versus RWD)

    You can't always predict the outcome of something just from peak hp ratings. Curb weight, transmission type, gearing, losses, power delivery, driver skill, hp rating systems, ambient conditions, number of people in each car, and planetary alignment all play a role.
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    Wow. That IS flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mycologist View Post

    I'm guessing that's of an m3?

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