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    stg4 wagon vs 300zxTT

    First time in a very long time posting a kill, just havn't been going around racing anymore. A couple weeks ago on the way to work at like 9pm, going like 70mph on the highway and a white 300zx with exhaust passes me, sounded nice, and he slowed down to get next to me.

    We slowed down to 40, I was in 2nd gear right in my powerband, and we take off at 3 honks and I start pulling hard. We went to about 130 and I was about 2 buslengths in front of him. We went a few more times with the same results.

    God that felt good. I havnt done that in a while.
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    nice kill ! i am interested in his mods, cuz those cars dont come around often, and i wanna know if i can beat it (i am stock lol)
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    From a roll - I'm gonna say - No, you can't beat it. I think their top-end is better than ours.
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    are you sure it was a tt ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rr1911 View Post
    are you sure it was a tt ?
    +1

    The TT's are no joke. They can be made really damn fast. I'm not sure how much power they can get on the stock turbos, but I've seen a few mildly modded ones run some sick times. They are really heavy though.
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    Good kill Chris!

    I am not that surprised by the results here. The 300ZX is nearly 20 years old now and it is not uncommon to find many of them only running mods like exhaust, downpipes and boost controller... Which indeed make it a quick car, but Chris' WRX is pushing over 300whp on a super 16G which has decent topend and will trap at 110mph or so.

    As for the dude with the stock 08' that wants to race 300ZX-TT's... Uh, prepare to get your ass kicked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BSRT2004 View Post
    +1

    The TT's are no joke. They can be made really damn fast. I'm not sure how much power they can get on the stock turbos,
    The shop that originally did all my exhaust work specialized in 300ZX's and they had several ones there pushing nearly 500whp on the stock turbo's. The guy was explaining to me that they are capable of 25psi+ with good tuning and don't need to be switched out for a larger single turbo like the Supra' do at 400whp.

    The owners 300ZX was using rebuilt and modified stock turbo's and just about every other mod imaginable and was pushing 540whp. Probably a dyno-queen though.
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    all this guy seemed to have was exhaust, the 2 angled cans on the back. It was a TT for sure. I pulled like i would pull on a stock sti or an sti with minimal mods.

    A stock 08 would have been smoked
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTR rex View Post
    The guy was explaining to me that they are capable of 25psi+ with good tuning and don't need to be switched out for a larger single turbo like the Supra' do at 400whp.

    Stock turbos aren't good for nearly that much hp. Turbos using the stock housing are. Just like the 3000GT/Stealth, most of the basic aftermarket options use the stock housings. There are 3S cars in the low 11s with turbos that could be mistaken for stock on the outside. Z's usually max out the stock twins at no more than 110 mph traps.

    The Supra's stock turbos are far more capable than any other car has been. It's just when they blow (usually caused by a failure in the sequential setup) it's much easier and cheaper to replace them with one big one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John M View Post
    Stock turbos aren't good for nearly that much hp. Turbos using the stock housing are. Just like the 3000GT/Stealth, most of the basic aftermarket options use the stock housings. There are 3S cars in the low 11s with turbos that could be mistaken for stock on the outside. Z's usually max out the stock twins at no more than 110 mph traps.

    The Supra's stock turbos are far more capable than any other car has been. It's just when they blow (usually caused by a failure in the sequential setup) it's much easier and cheaper to replace them with one big one.
    I see... I was mistaken then.

    Perhaps he was just refering to the capabilities of the stock housings and rebuilding the OEM turbo's or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DTR rex View Post
    The shop that originally did all my exhaust work specialized in 300ZX's and they had several ones there pushing nearly 500whp on the stock turbo's. The guy was explaining to me that they are capable of 25psi+ with good tuning and don't need to be switched out for a larger single turbo like the Supra' do at 400whp.

    The owners 300ZX was using rebuilt and modified stock turbo's and just about every other mod imaginable and was pushing 540whp. Probably a dyno-queen though.
    Is the place your speaking of Z1 motorsports? as for the kill, nice one. I used to own a NA 90 300ZX, my first car. Good car. I still think that for a performance machine, Nissan hasn't topped it (in the states.) That will all change with the GT-R of course tho. I say that because you can get one to 500 horsepower for under 6 grand, thats garentueed... at Z1...

    And finally, if you think his exaust sounded good, go find yourself a 300ZX with a stillen exaust. I've had some of the biggest "car people" i know say its the best sounding exaust they ever heard.

    You want a mean 300ZX tho... http://www.z1motorsports.com/imageGa...FvsRF_PWTQ_IMG
    Of course, that thing has prolly 20k+ of mods. The wheels alone run like... 4k a set.

    One of these days i'll want another 300...
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    Stock turbos aren't good for nearly that much hp. Turbos using the stock housing are. Just like the 3000GT/Stealth, most of the basic aftermarket options use the stock housings. There are 3S cars in the low 11s with turbos that could be mistaken for stock on the outside. Z's usually max out the stock twins at no more than 110 mph traps.
    Stock turbos on the Z32TT max out at usually around a tad over 400RWHP. That is running all the bolt ons, including but not limited to larger injectors, better side mount intercoolers, and of course, all the breathing mods, etc (@18-19PSI). The stock turbos are "efficient" to roughly 18-19PSI. They will hold 14-15PSI to redline, so they are better than the 3000GT/Stealth stockers. 400RWHP on a 5 speed Z32TT, should trap in the low/mid teens (113-115 or so).
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    one of my best friends has a 300zx that runs an 11.3 @ 123.4

    its ridiculous
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    Great run! Your wrx I have owned a 93 zx and 2 wrx with my last one at 310 awp. I luv the wrx which handles better, ( gawd the z in the rain, forget it no rear grip) its lighter, all around pound for pound better car, easier to work on thats for sure. Try changing an O2 sensor on the passanger side of the ZX. Fook that! But the truth is a nicely modded ZX with stage 2 and all the bolt ons to go with it will from a roll pull wrx's, str4's, cobalt SS, etc.. The Z makes nice power with bolt ons, give it some JWT lovin and it moves out! My friend has a stage 3 DCR running 24 lbs of boost on his srt4 and he is right there with a well built 300, ( and there are some differences in the years also, the 96 model TT lost 15-20 HP due to the emmisions change) . The best year to find is a 94-95. we dont have any vid of his DCR vs a Z but here is a link to one i seen b4 on youtube.. well you also know how youtube is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 95RT/TT View Post
    Stock turbos on the Z32TT max out at usually around a tad over 400RWHP. That is running all the bolt ons, including but not limited to larger injectors, better side mount intercoolers, and of course, all the breathing mods, etc (@18-19PSI). The stock turbos are "efficient" to roughly 18-19PSI. They will hold 14-15PSI to redline, so they are better than the 3000GT/Stealth stockers. 400RWHP on a 5 speed Z32TT, should trap in the low/mid teens (113-115 or so).
    The Z club that usually participates in the local 3S events didn't have cars going that quick on the stock twins so I figured 110 was about all there was. Either way, you couldn't pay me enough to work under that hood. If it ain't up top, you can forget reaching it!

    My Stealth's stock twins held right at 15 (maybe a hair less) to redline with a downpipe and stock catback. At the time I did it, I was told there was no way the stockers could go that fast. If I hadn't lost $2k in the "adapter plate & 16g" fiasco, the car would have been really fun.

    Click here to see our small group headed back from the track. You can tell it's been a while - check out those gas prices! There's my friend's Z (I think it was a 92 - it got totaled while sitting at a redlight), my Stealth, a BPU Supra, and my brother's single Supra w/ 505whp @ 19 psi on pump.
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